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Re: [soa-iwg] ECF remote services
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Ricco Deutscher wrote:
Scott,
Here is my summary: The SOA IWG is highly interested to include ECF as
an integrated part of the Eclipse SOA EPP package when
the group has clarity about (1) how it is integrated (architecture),
ECF is already integrated with Equinox/other EclipseRT components...by
virtue of us using Equinox as the OSGi framework.
ECF is already integrated with OSGi itself by virtue of this being an
implementation of an OSGi standard.
ECF is already integrated with existing tooling, because existing
tooling (PDE, DS) implements tooling for OSGi services...and with the
remote services standard all of this tooling is immediately useful for
creating/using remote services.
If this does not represent 'integrated', then you must detail what you
mean by 'integrated'...because the above seem to me like the important
integrations for an EclipseRT project and OSGi standard-based SOA
implementation.
Again...if these are not the integrations you mean, then integrated with
what? What would integration *mean*...if not integration via *industry
standards*?
(2) when it is integrated (roadmap),
As indicated, it is already integrated with all the above.
and (3) who is the owner of the integration (resource commitment).
We are the owner of these integrations, and have already done them (and
will continue to do them cooperatively with the relevant projects).
If you are not able to answer these 3 issues the group will wait until
somebody else steps up to make that happen.
Make what happen? Integration with what? As I've stated, we are
already integrated in the ways listed above.
And the implication that we haven't already 'stepped up' (by
providing/implementing this standard on behalf of the community) is
insulting. I consider implementing OSGi standards on behalf of the
EclipseRT community as a great example of 'stepping up' to meet
community needs with actual technical work. If that's no longer
considered 'stepping up', or no longer valued by the EF, member
companies, or working groups, then it's time to find an organization
whose values are not so screwed up.
Scott
