Re: [science-iwg] Science WG Interview

[UOMo <uomo@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Philip/all,

Thanks for sharing. Nice summary of what's happening so far.

>What types of companies and individuals (i.e. from what industries/research areas) will you try to >address?
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>Companies, institutes and individuals from different scientific research areas are welcome.

I'm afraid especially Individuals are a bit under-represented or (aside from subscribing here or participating in events like the Unconference) not really got a place to be mentioned or seen.

I discussed the Science WG in the last STEM call and project lead Jamie agreed, from a focus this IBM-lead project would perfectly qualify for "Science". I also pointed them to the charta, but as far as Jamie remembered (PTP was discussed at STEM a few times for possible usage, but I don't think it currently is by STEM itself) the reason PTP was mentioned by name could have something to do with the infrastructure or WG foundation. I don't see that in the interview, so maybe there's another reason? As STEM is listed like other projects but so far was not actively involved or joined the WG they thought the phrase "The SWG acknowledges the contribution of projects such as..." was sufficient, as it does not exclude other projects.

If a project like STEM could be included in the WG, the team was open to that. I'll present the STEM poster at the meeting and am happy to disuss such prospect there. Other projects like UOMo have relavence, see "exchange format" but there are other WGs and areas like IoT that can equally benefit from it, so it may be more "technical" than "horizontal" and live fine in "Technology".

See some of you in Toulouse,

Werner Keil | Eclipse UOMo Lead, Babel Language Champion | JSR 363 Co Spec Lead | Java Godfather

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Today's Topics:

   1. Science WG Interview (Dr. Philip Wenig)
   2. Project Tango for Science and Data Visualization (UOMo)
   3. Re: Science WG Interview (Tracy Miranda)
   4. Re: Science WG Interview (Andrew Ross)

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From: Andrew Ross <andrew.ross@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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+1 Thanks so much for doing that Philip. I also think it captures the
spirit of our community nicely.

See many of you again soon in Toulouse! Looking forward to it.

Andrew

On 10/06/14 20:37, Tracy Miranda wrote:
> Great interview. I like how it captures the history as well as
> highlighting all the different nations already involved.
>
> Tracy
>
> On 10 June 2014 18:19, Dr. Philip Wenig <philip.wenig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Diana from the Eclipse Magazine had some questions about the Science WG we answered as follows:
>>
>> When and how did the idea for the Eclipse Science WG originate?
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>> The idea was around for a long time. Andy Gotz, Ola Spjuth, Alun Ashton and others had this idea several years ago. Eventually, Philip Wenig met Ralph M??ller at the CeBIT in Hanover, 2012 and tried to convince him starting an Eclipse Science WG. After having a look at all the available RCP projects with scientific scope, Ralph took it forward within the Eclipse Foundation. Several projects exist since then in different areas of scientific research, ranging from physics over biology to chemistry. We had our first meeting at the University of Hamburg in the beginning of July, 2012. Then a couple of meetings followed at diverse EclipseCon's around the world. Finally, we started writing a charter at the EclipseCon 2013 in Ludwigsburg, Germany. Meanwhile, Andrew Ross was chosen as the official Science WG representative by the Eclipse Foundation and the Diamond Light Source took responsibility to push the working group forward. At the same time, a logo contest had been started
 and a web page created. After passing the review stage, the Science Working Group was announced officially at 4th of June 2014. It was a nice coincidence that the announcement of the working groups start fell together with the first official working group meeting, held at Diamond Light Source, UK.
>>
>> Why do you think there is a need for such an inititative?
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>> It's just a justification for us travelling around the world spending time in indian restaurants and trinking good old english ale.
>>
>> Joking apart, research institutes and companies who would prefer not to re-invent scientific libraries require a place to find and share this kind of software. Moreover, individuals who are writing their master or Ph.D. thesis as well as postdocs with interesting projects and software skills would benefit from the group. We want to make tools reusable in the scientific space by defining one or more areas on which to collaborate. The hope is that serendipitous discoveries can be made by applying tools created for one technique in an entirely unexpected way, in another area. One example is the peak fitting algorithms which different members of the group are working on.
>>
>> What is your personal motivation for creating this group?
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Open source and science are a dream team, no doubt. Scientists need to have the freedom to tinker and the flexibility to modify things in an unexpected way. Additionally to that, software becomes more and more important in scientific research. That's why open source is a good fit because it offers the flexibility scientists need. New ideas happen on the shoulders of giants and new ideas can be made to work when existing tools are modified or are recombined.
>>
>> Who is already involved?
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Diamond Light Source, UK
>> UT-Battelle (Oak Ridge National Laboratory), USA
>> University of Uppsala, Sweden
>> Facility for Rare Isotope Beams, USA
>> Marintek, Norway
>> Lablicate UG, Germany
>> Kichwa Coders, UK
>> Clemson University, USA
>> Tech'Advantage, France
>>
>> What types of companies and individuals (i.e. from what industries/research areas) will you try to address?
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Companies, institutes and individuals from different scientific research areas are welcome.
>>
>> The WG is now formally created. What are the next steps?
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Convincing more companies, institutions and individuals to join the working group. The participants just started to write and push project proposals to migrate their existing projects to the Eclipse Foundation.
>>
>> When are your next meet-ups?
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The next meetings will be held at the EclipseCon France, 2014 Toulouse or the EclipseCon Europe Germany, 2014 Ludwigsburg.
>>
>> What???s the best way to get in touch with you?
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Join the mailing list, ask questions and get in contact with its participants:
>> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/science-iwg
>>
>> Or directly call or mail Andrew Ross:
>> andrew.ross@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Best,
>> Philip
>> _______________________________________________




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