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Re: [rt-pmc] Vert.x 2.1.0 release

What I think I wrote is that an Eclipse project can not legally download from Maven Central. (doesnt make Maven Central illegal)

I think Wayne is better in answering this question. But I try….

The reason is that every piece of a deliverable from Eclipse needs to be IP-checked. For third party bundles we use Orbit to do that IP due dilligence check. And we dont just do that for each lib once but we need to do that for each and every version of a third party lib. That version is then upload to Orbit and tagged.

So a very well documented process for what is in your release. (your own code and third party code and dependencies from other project). You can be absolutly sure that every bit so to say is checked by IP or at least we try to achieve that.

All that is lost if you download from Maven Central. You technically can get all kinds of stuff there but you have to have good faith that there no legal issues in combination with your software. For example you cannot deliver EPL code and GPL code. (Legally not possible). Is there GPL code in Maven Central ? I bet there is…..

But again I am sure Wayne or Mike can explain that much better….

christian

Von: Tim Fox <timvolpe@xxxxxxxxx>
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Datum: Mittwoch, 12. März 2014 13:51
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Betreff: Re: [rt-pmc] Vert.x 2.1.0 release

On 12/03/14 12:39, Christian Campo wrote:

I think what Gunnar is saying, that Eclipse projects that may have a dependency on Vert.x can not legally pull it from Maven Central.


Sure you can legally pull from Maven Central, there's nothing illegal about that. I guess what you mean is "Eclipse has a rule that eclipse projects can't use Maven Central", which is somewhat different.

I'm curious to know the basis of the rule (i.e. not just "the lawyers said so"). It seems like a huge handicap.


They can only pull content from content hosted at Eclipse.org.

 

A user of Vert.x can pull from Maven Central thats clear. But say my own project „Riena“ uses Vert.x somewhere and needs to redistribute Vert.x as part of the Riena download it can not pull Vert.x from Maven Central.

 

christian

 

Von:rt-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rt-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Tim Fox
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. März 2014 13:34
An: rt-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: Re: [rt-pmc] Vert.x 2.1.0 release

 

On 12/03/14 11:50, Gunnar Wagenknecht wrote:

Tim, 

 

Am 12.03.2014 um 09:49 schrieb Tim Fox <timvolpe@xxxxxxxxx>:

All our jars are in Maven Central - projects can pull from that.

 

They can’t even pull from there easily. It’s not a technical issue, it’s a legal issue.



Maven Central is the defacto standard place for projects to put their jars. *everyone* uses it. Are you seriously suggesting it's not an appropriate place?





By "downloads" I assumed that Wayne meant the project distribution, i.e. the .zip or .tar.gz - like this https://bintray.com/vertx/downloads/distribution/2.1RC1 ?

 

Yes, just uploading that (eg. via scp to build.eclipse.org:~/downloads/vertx) so that’s available via http://download.eclipse.org/vertx/) and the world is good.

 

-Gunnar

 

 

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