well, since we have no current direction or defined
future for RT that
should be pretty easy :)
hopefully that issue will be put to bed once and for
all at the
eclipse con panel!
jesse
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On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Glyn Normington
<gnormington@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Isn't it also part of the co-lead job to stand up
at EclipseCon and attempt
to answer horrendous questions about the current
directions and future of
RT? I guess I can say "I have no idea" as well as
the next person, but I'd
rather not volunteer for that in the first place.
But, seriously, if all that is required is to
stand in for Tom when he can't
make RT PMC calls and continue to make not
completely incoherent noises
about release trains etc., then I could be
persuaded. (The beer has nothing
to do with my position, although I'm not saying
no to that.)
Regards,
Glyn
On 21 Nov 2012, at 14:54, Campo, Christian wrote:
I think Glyn is already a very active person in
rt-pmc. He initiated and
contributes to many of the current topics. Glyn
is in most telcos. It would
only be a very small step for him to be co-lead.
Maybe a little more than
just getting access to the moderator code of the
telcos but not much more.
:-) Ok and then if Tom is not in the telco you
have to do the minutes.
(happened to me ONCE in over a year)
Making you, Glyn co-lead is in my view more an
acknowledgement of the work
you are already doing. I know you take these kind
of committments very
seriously but this not a committment until the
end of time. Having two
people leading a group has the advantage that
"life" continues even if only
one lead is present in a call or in a meeting.
And I can buy you a beer on ECE2013 if that makes
a difference :-)
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Betreff: Re: [rt-pmc] co-lead position rt-pmc
I agree Glyn would be excellent
I know he has just turned down the nomination
however I would also +1 him
and perhaps you (Christian) can detail out more
of the role of what co-lead
does such that we could lull him into the role.
cheers,
jesse
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On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Glyn Normington
<gnormington@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Christian
I think one of your strengths in being a co-lead
is that you do
understand the IDE side of things as well as
being deeply involved in
RT. You also know Riena, which probably puts you
in a minority in the
RT PMC! However, I know what it feels like when
the topics constantly
under discussion are not personally very
relevant, so I understand you
wanting to stand down.
I'm pleased that some people, including yourself,
think I would make a
good co-lead. I admit to being interested in the
current topics of
discussion from a Virgo perspective. However,
that doesn't mean I
therefore have sufficient time to take on a
co-lead role. I'm spread
pretty thin at the moment trying to keep Gemini
Blueprint going and
working the rest of the time on Virgo, so I'm
afraid I'll need to
pass. I will however provide all the back-up I
can to Tom, especially
on the current topics. I just don't have the time
to gen up on the
various RT projects in order to take on tasks
like speaking
authoritatively on behalf of Eclipse RT at
conferences. Maybe we all feel
that way?
Regards,
Glyn
On 21 Nov 2012, at 08:27, Campo, Christian wrote:
Hi,
I have been think about this for a while. The
rt-pmc members voted for
me as a co-lead for the RT-PMC last year. I
really appreciated the
trust that you guys put in me.
However I currently have the feeling that a lot
of rt-pmc topics sort
of pass by me. There are pain points for RT
projects like Maven,
Release Train or LTS that I currently dont feel
so much myself. I feel
that am unable to be a lot of help and I am
proposing that someone
other who is more affected and concerned about
the current pain points takes
over from here.
I think Tom is doing a wonderful job leading us
but I feel very unable
and unefficient in backing him up. So that makes
me think that someone
like Glyn would serve us much better as co-lead
(if he likes to do
that)
Pain Points that I have are more along the lines
of how can we move
Riena to e4. We just finished that and Riena will
rejoin the Kepler
composite repo for M4.
Its not that I am pulling back ressources from
Eclipse at all. I still
like to be in the rt-pmc and I am also program
chair for ECE 2013
which will be again a lot of work.
My observation is just that I am currently not a
good co-lead for the
rt-pmc.
Who likes to do it instead ?
Christian Campo
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