| Virgo participated in the Juno release train primarily in order to qualify for LTS and yet there seem to be few other advantages, but significant costs, in Virgo's participation. So I have been probing whether participation in the release train should be a pre-req to LTS. 
 Andrew Ross and I agree (below) that the release train isn't the true requirement, but that's the way the LTS-readiness Release Management requirement ([1]) is currently written. The only alternative currently is to obtain approval by a vote of the LTS Steering Committee. 
 I would therefore like to approach the LTS Steering Commit and request an alternative LTS-readiness Release Management criterion in terms that can be satisfied without participating in the release train. 
 Before I do that I wanted to check that the RT PMC were comfortable with this request. Please reply by the end of this week if you are not. 
Regards,
 Glyn
 Begin forwarded message: Subject: Re: Should LTS pre-req the release train?
 Date: 12 September 2012 05:04:24 GMT+01:00
 
 
    Hi Glyn, Ian
 
 I had the same conversation in the context of Jetty. No surprise
      the same answer applies.
 
 Of the LTS readiness requirements, I do believe the simultaneous
      release requirements is rather soft. Pretty much agreeing with you
      - there are requirements to be on the train that we'll likely
      clone into the LTS-readiness definition but the simultaneous
      release in and of itself isn't a true requirement. That said, it
      is the easiest way to be picked up for LTS. Otherwise the Steering
      Committee needs to explicitly make a decision to bring it in.
 
 Andrew
 
 On 09/11/2012 10:08 AM, Glyn Normington wrote:
 
 Hi Andrew
      
 There has been discussion in the RT PMC and the Gemini
        project recently about the participation of runtime projects in
        the Eclipse release train. Jetty, for instance, will no longer
        be on the train as of the Kepler release because there seem to
        be few advantages and significant costs of joining the train. 
 The main reason Virgo joined the release train was because
        there is interest in Virgo participating in the LTS programme
        which pre-req's the release train. I'm not convinced that the
        release train really should be a pre-req. to LTS. It is more
        likely that some of the release train requirements, such as
        availability of releases from a standard repository, are really
        what LTS requires. 
 What's your thinking on this? 
 I have coped Ian who is the RT PMC's representative on the
        Planning Council as we may want to raise the same question there
        when you've expressed your thoughts on the matter.
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