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[mailto:rt-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas Watson
Sent: February-10-10 5:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [rt-pmc] Re: Request for creation review approval
Graduation is a different topic. That all
depends on the community input and our confidence that the project is ready for
graduation. I will not say it is impossible, but it does sound rather
aggressive considering the pressure on the current Equinox team to release 3.6
of Equinox.
Tom
Heiko Seeberger ---02/10/2010 03:57:32 PM---Tom,
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Re: [rt-pmc] Re: Request for creation review
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Tom,
Not jumping on the Helios train would be OK. Is this somehow related
to the schedule? Do you think that graduation until June is not
possible?
Heiko
On Wednesday, February 10, 2010, Thomas Watson <tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
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> I think it is going to be very late to jump on the Helios train. There
are really two concerns.
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> 1) the short time period to graduate.
> 2) the late timing for Helios.
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> I think we are looking at post Helios M6 at this point. That
leaves you no time to incubate and graduate APIs in Helios let alone getting
the build integrated and all the CQs aligned and approved by EMO for Helios.
For example, we need to figure out if the terms of the scala license is
OK according to EMO etc. I think it is simply too late to get on the
train at this point. I recommend you do not attempt to jump on the Helios
train.
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> Tom
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> Heiko Seeberger ---02/10/2010 02:51:32 PM---Ah, and to clarify
regarding accelerated graduation and relation to
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> Ah, and to clarify regarding accelerated graduation and relation to
> Helios, please know this statement from the RT PMC (Jeff):
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> "... For the incubation period it can either go in the Equinox
> Incubator or as a new sub-project that is in incubation mode.
The
> latter is fine if there is strong commitment to graduate the function
> in a short timeframe (e.g., Helios). ..."
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> Heiko
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> On Wednesday, February 10, 2010, Heiko Seeberger
> <heiko.seeberger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Jochen,
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>> On Wednesday, February 10, 2010, Jochen Krause
>> <jkrause@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Heiko and Wayne,
>>> First of all the PMC is happy to send a +1 for the creation of
ScalaModules, and is looking forward to work with you.
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>> Thanks.
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>>> However, we would like to express our concern regarding the
planned schedule for ScalaModules. The Eclipse development process requires
(beside other things) building three communities and providing a stable API
before exiting incubation. And as we are in the runtime space we want to put an
emphasis on stable APIs. Your planned schedule seems very ambitious from our
point of view.
>>> A clarification regarding Helios would be welcome.
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>> Please notice, that ScalaModules is already a mature project.
There
>> are projects out there using ScalaModules, most prominently the
Lift
>> web framework. It is a prerequisite - and this was already
discussed
>> and agreed upon with Wayne, Jeff and others from the Foundation -
to
>> graduate as soon as possible, because the dependant projects
expect
>> and rely on a release and not some snapshot or incubation state.
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>> Hence the planned schedule (aligned with Helios) cannot be
relaxed,
>> but from our point of view it is not essential to be part of
Helios.
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>> Hope this helps.
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>> Best wishes,
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>> Heiko
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>> --
>> Heiko Seeberger
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>> Work: weiglewilczek.com
>> Blog: heikoseeberger.name
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>> OSGi on Scala: scalamodules.org
>> Lift, the simply functional web framework: liftweb.net
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> Heiko Seeberger
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