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[rt-pmc] Re: Election for Sam Lo

Thanks for your response Mark. Based on this I will veto the current vote and ask that you or the original nominator restart the election.  Hopefully more people will be around to vote this time.

Jeff


Mark Rogalski wrote:

To me, it looks "open" enough since all the patches and voting are public. The problem is that it looks like we have a bunch of apathetic or non-participating committers. Let's re-run the the vote and find out if that's the case or whether it was just an ill timed vote.

        Mark




Jeff McAffer <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

01/06/2009 09:08 AM

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The difficulty from the outside is that this looks like one team of people accelerating the committership for a co-worker.  Short incubation time, few votes, all from the same team, none of the leaders voting, ...  It does not look "open" from the outside.  Would it be reasonable to re-run the election?

Jeff

Mark Rogalski wrote:


In my case, I was on vacation and did not see the vote request until after the voting period closed. Since many other people are off at the end of the year, conducting committer votes in mid December is probably not a good idea if one wants to see good participation. We should probably discourage that unless it is critical.

In regards to standards for adding committers, we had discussions about this on the DSDP PMC as well. It is hard to set a single standard that is applicable to all projects. I think it is the role of the PMC to ensure there is some level of due diligence and that may vary by project size or type. For DSDP, we were interested in seeing a certain number of "significant " contributions. They could range from patches to newsgroup responses showing some level of expertise. We had no elapsed time consideration at all. In the case of eRCP, where there are several smaller components to gain expertise in, I think that 2 months is sufficient to demonstrate understanding of a component.


               Mark




Jeff McAffer <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

01/06/2009 07:52 AM


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There was recently an election for Sam Lo as a committer on eRCP.  The
vot concluded with only 3 people voting (all +1) and 10 not voting.  I'd
like to get some confirmation that this vote has been widely reviewed
and understand why only 3 voted.  In addition to that, the nomination
material cited 2 months collaboration on various bugs and articles.  
While the development process does not (AFAIK) spec a precise time
requirement, generally speaking it has been held to be 4-6 months of
active collaboration on a project of any significant size.

Jeff



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