RE: [ptp-dev] Cell IDE contribution to PTP

["Schaefer, Doug" <Doug.Schaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks, Beth, that helps a lot.
 
I wouldn't be a good PMC guy if I didn't ask these questions :). I look forward to more detail in the IPzilla entry.
 
Cheers,
Doug.


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	From: ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Beth Tibbitts
	Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:54 AM
	To: Parallel Tools Platform general developers
	Subject: RE: [ptp-dev] Cell IDE contribution to PTP
	
	

	They can probably give more details than I, but they contributed the remote tools support to PTP and generalized that for general use (not just Cell),
	are generalizing PTP resource managers to handle more runtime systems, and i believe plan to generalize other (originally) cell-specific views/tools etc
	to be of use to the larger PTP community. We're working with them to leverage the PTP Performance Tools Framework for launching Cell (and other Linux)
	performance tools as well. Basically, they have contributed code generalized for use to the larger PTP community, and are pre-req'ing some existing
	PTP parts to require as part of the Cell IDE. Give some, take some, a symbiotic relationship.
	
	
	...Beth
	
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	Actually it would really help if the IBM team could tell us why they are contributing it to PTP and what their vision is for the Cell IDE community.
	
	Thanks,
	Doug.
	
	
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	From: ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schaefer, Doug
	Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:11 AM
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	Subject: RE: [ptp-dev] Cell IDE contribution to PTP
	
	Cool, thanks Craig. I can see Cell being useful for the scientific community. But I'm trying to figure out if there is any separation between the Cell IDE and IBM commercial interests. You did somewhat confirm that you are an IBM customer and do fit on the commercial side. I assume IBM, like most platform vendors, should be providing a supported IDE as a part of their solution, no?
	
	I think we get into a fuzzy area when a commercial vendor contributes software that can only be used with their products. I have similar concerns with the xlc integration with the CDT, BTW. I'll need to check up the chain about that, assuming that's what this is. And, if the community fully support this, it makes it harder for me to argue.
	
	Cheers,
	Doug.
	
	
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	From: ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Craig Rasmussen
	Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:44 AM
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	Subject: Re: [ptp-dev] Cell IDE contribution to PTP
	
	The Cell architecture is a big component of Los Alamos' computing vision. We have just purchased the 1 Petaflop Roadrunner machine and are looking for ways to ease the transition for our developers. I'm a member of a small team of neural scientists at LANL who are purchasing a small Cell based cluster for code development. Our team is also using Eclipse and PTP and the Cell IDE fits very nicely in the parallel space we are working in.
	
	Cheers,
	Craig
	
	
	On Jul 11, 2008, at 8:34 AM, Schaefer, Doug wrote:
	

			I've added a comment on the bug. I'm just wondering how the Cell IDE fits into the PTP mandate. And I'm wondering about the community around the Cell IDE, i.e., who uses it, is there a community outside of IBM commercial interests?
			
			Doug wearing his Tools PMC hat.
			
			

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				From: ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ptp-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Leonardo Augusto Guimarães Garcia
				Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 5:09 PM
				To: Parallel Tools Platform general developers
				Subject: Re: [ptp-dev] Cell IDE contribution to PTP
				
				Greg,
				
				I attached the necessary patches and the source code for Cell IDE in the Eclipse bug #240243 <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=240243> .
				
				Please, let me know if there is any issue.
				
				Best regards,
				
				Leonardo Garcia
				Linux on Cell and Prism Focal Point - LTC Brazil
				IDE Software Engineer - Linux on Cell
				Linux Technology Center Brazil
				Phone: +55-19-2132-2068 (T/L: 839-2068)
				lagarcia@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lagarcia@xxxxxxxxxx> 
				
				
				Leonardo Augusto Guimarães Garcia wrote: 

						Greg,
					
					I opened Eclipse bug #240243 <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=240243>  in order to contribute Cell IDE source code to PTP.
					
					I'll attach the necessary patches and source code on the bug by the end of this week so that you and others interested can take a look.
					
					Best regards,
					
					Leonardo Garcia
					
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