[platform-ui-dev] RE: [ui-best-practices-working-group] Results of Searc

[Kevin McGuire <Kevin_McGuire@xxxxxxxxxx>]

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Thanks for the writeup Kaloyan.

I just wanted to clarify something,
based on an IM and another email thread:

I actually don't own or maintain Search
UI.  I just have lots of opinions on lots of things and that provides
the illusion of ownership :)   I am though a platform committer and
care about Search.  I have no planned enhancements to Search and am
not aware of plans in this area.  What I showed in the call was some
ideas I had resulting from investation two years ago.  Its healthy
for us to have some new thinking in this area so I'd like to encourage
this effort!

If the community wants to put some heads
and hands together, I can help by providing some input and guidance, but
the platform team hasn't resources to apply much above that of guidance,
sadly. Dani Megert (committer for platform, text, JDT) is also interested
in this topic.  We said we'd have a follow up call and he'd like to
be on it.

If there's energy behind this then by
all means lets do some exploration as a tweaklet and see how it plays out.
I'd advise front-loading this work in the 3.5 release cycle to give lots
of time for feedback and iteration if something is to come of it.

Best Regards,
Kevin

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Hello,
 
Here are my notes from the yesterday's
call. 
 
Bogdan Vatkov made a quick walk-through
on the pain points in the current Search UI in Eclipse. The main point
is that defining search criteria and looking at search results are tightly
connected tasks. Therefore, it is quite natural to have them in one and
the same view. See the attached slides for details. 
 
Kevin McGuire presented a concept
that is very close to Bogdan's proposal. He mentioned that there are dev
resources needed to realize this experimental search form - may be the
interested parties in the community can help? The Platform team is open
on making changes. 
 
There were people on the call
that were in favor with the proposed new search concept and others that
like the existing one. Therefore, the following was concluded:
  - There should be simple and advanced search modes in one and the
same view. User make the choice for the mode. 
  - Eclipse could provide Search UI for both old and new concepts
and not sacrificing any of them. 
 
Action items:
  - Start with a Bugzilla bug to collect our initial resources from
this walk-through - documents, notes, etc. (Bogdan and Kaloyan)
  - Bogdan Vatkov will send the presentation slides. (done with this
mail)
  - Kevin will send a document describing his new experimental search
form. 
  - Follow-up call in few weeks - there will be more people coming
back from vacation. Until then discussions continue in the mailing list
and Bugzilla. 
 
Greetings,
Kaloyan

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Agenda: Search UI pain points walkthrough (Bogdan Vatkov)

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