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RE: [platform-ui-dev] Voting: View Activation and Opening

My two cents as a user...

In general (meaning almost always), I find a modal dialog *more*
intrusive than the console view popping into visibility. Alternatively,
you might think about flashing the console view tab if it's stacked. If
the console view is not open, the modal dialog should offer to open it.

It is not uncommon for a plugin to provide window actions that act as a
toggle to show or hide views. Restricting programmatically opened views
to fast or floating defeats this use. A better alternative may be to
implement the new behavior only if a view is being opened for the first
time in the current page. If the page was last saved with this view
showing or the view was shown but closed later on, show the view in its
previous position.


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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:29 PM
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Subject: [platform-ui-dev] Voting: View Activation and Opening

View Activation and Opening

The Loss of Context Proposal has been split up so we can move forward on
individual issues.  This section concerns the State View Activatoin and
Opening issues (Problem #7).  We would like to vote on the direction of
this proposal.  If agreement can be reached, we will progress with the
implementation and address PR's as they come up.

In Eclipse, many complaints have been made about intrusive behavior in
the platform.  For instance, if the console view appears with a normal
message, users don't want to see it.   The feel it should only appear if
there is an important message to be seen.  Many users also complain when
a view is opened, causing a layout change in the perspective.

To resolve these problems, we will:

# define guidelines for the appropriate use of view activation.  In
general, a view should only be activated if the user     explicitly asks
see the view.  If an error occurs, and it requires user attention, a
modal dialog should be used to communicate that error to the user.

# if a view is opened programmatically, we will open it as fast view or
floating view until user places it in page.  In the      current
the user can choose either one, or the existing behavior.  We will make
of them (fast or      floating) the default, rather than the existing

For the time being, we have no plans to implement a "flash view"


     +1 = You are in favour of this proposal & agree with further
exploration to determine API/contribution
     0 = Abstain
     -1 = You are opposed to this proposal. When voting -1 you must also
provide a detailed explanation of your

Voting ends 1 week from date proposal is submitted to the mailing list.

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