+1 for taking middle ground Thanks and Regards, Sravan Sravan Kumar Lakkimsetti IBM India Pvt Ltd, Embassy Golf Links Business Park, D Block, Off Indiranagar-Kormangla Inner Ring Road, Bangalore - 560071, India Phone: 91-80-41776858 From: Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 1:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [platform-swt-dev] Bumping minimum version of GTK3 to 3.14 in4.11 We use SLES 12 on our JIPPs. And GTK version available here is 3.10.9.
Now moving to 3.14 will make the gerrit jobs to fail for all components(specifically UI tests). We will need to upgrade our infrastructure to upgrade OS on all JIPPs. I don’t think that is a good option considering we are trying to move to Cloudbees Jenkins Enterprise(CJE). With CJE we will run on an OS configuration of our choosing I suggest a delay to 4.12 as I am expecting CJE migration to be complete by that time.
I think we should take the middle ground here - and bump the min Gtk version to Gtk 3.10. It would still be an improvement for maintenance and will make the next round smaller. Furthermore, CJE migration might need additional cycle (my previous experience with the SLES 11 -> 12 migration) so we would better get what we can now. Thanks and Regards, Sravan Sravan Kumar Lakkimsetti IBM India Pvt Ltd, Embassy Golf Links Business Park, D Block, Off Indiranagar-Kormangla Inner Ring Road, Bangalore - 560071, India Phone: 91-80-41776858 From: Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 12:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [platform-swt-dev] Bumping minimum version of GTK3 to 3.14 in 4.11 +1. Multiple dnd logic is confusing.
Sounds like we have an agreement from the people that touched the code in the last few years :) . +1 from me.
No doubts, with more resources this would be may be different, but for now we have no other alternative. Maintaining this spaghetti code is a Nightmare.
Am 29. November 2018 18:03:20 MEZ schrieb Eric Williams <ericwill@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>Hello,
>
>For the 4.11 release, I believe SWT will strongly benefit from moving
>to
>a minimum version of GTK3.14. Here are some specific details:
>
>-CSS for backgrounds and foregrounds is 3.14+, no more GtkStyleContext
>background/foreground machinery
>
>-no need to support pre-3.10 drawing model changes
>
>-gtk-gradient CSS is gone in GTK4, we only use it for Combo on GTK3.12
>and below
>
>-removal of non-Cairo setRegion() drawing as this is 3.8 and below
>
>-removal of pre-GTK3.10 DnD logic
>
>-removal of miscellaneous functions such as: GtkWidget opacity,
>GtkScrolledWindow add_with_viewport, etc.
>
>-removal of several pre-GTK3.14 Table/Tree drawing hacks
>
>-greatly allows for simplification of Cairo drawing in GC, as many of
>these operations are guarded with GTK3.14+ calls
>
>-allows SWT to rely solely on GTK CSS theme parsing, no more
>GtkStyleContext lookups to get system colours
>
>
>In summary, these changes would really simplify the codebase as almost
>all the items mentioned above are gone in GTK4. With the introduction
>of
>GTK4 guards it would be really beneficial if we could start to
>eliminate
>the GTK3 specific version guards. Furthermore, it is very hard to find
>a
>modern (supported) Linux distribution that ships with anything less
>than
>GTK3.14 anymore, and the disconnect between the 3.14- and 3.24
>methodologies is quite large.
>
>If anyone has any concerns, please raise them.
>
>Thanks,
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