[platform-scripting-dev] Re: [eclipse-dev] Let's revive the scripting pr

[Andrey Platov <andrey@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Ed,

For a lot of time we're at xored software dream to start work on
scripting for Eclipse Platform... Not limited with macros/automation but
targeted to more general scripting framework.

The idea of the freamework is the possibility to develop virtually any
Eclipse plugin as well as develop Eclipse extensions with scripting
language using XUL-like approach (XML for GUI declaration and scripting
language for the logic). 

Shining eclipse runtime have no architectural barriers to develop such a
framework and to script Eclipse extension logic directly in plugin.xml
and/or external script files. Joining everyting with the power of
scripting can result in easy and fast approach to script any non-GUI or
GUI extension like Views, Actions, Eclipse Forms Editors, etc and result
in much more productivity for Java developers and drastically increase
Eclipse popularity for non-Java developers. 

Please sorry for trivial exciting words, the question: is it possible
for external teams to participate in any fashion
(contribute/comment/etc)?

Thanks and Kind Regards,
Andrey Platov
xored software, inc
http://www.xored.com

В Чтв, 09/12/2004 в 12:33 -0500, Ed Burnette пишет:
> I propose reviving the effort to bring scripting (including macros, keydefs, automation, etc.) to the Eclipse Platform. This is one of the four "grand challenges" I've identified for Eclipse (see http://www.eclipsepowered.org/archives/2004/11/30/eclipse-grand-challenges/). Of the four, scripting is arguably the most enabling, i.e., it opens up many possibilities to do more with the platform than what was originally envisioned.
> 
> There are numerous bugzilla entries that cover scripting, including:
> 
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=8519
> 	Keystroke macros recording and playing capability
> 
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=35949
>  	[Commands] macros: Allow key bindings to execute multiple commands in series.
> 
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36163
>    	Feature suggestion: IDE/plugin scriptability through built-in Javascript
> 
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=37680
> 	[Plan Item] Add Eclipse automation
> 
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=37936
>  	[Plan Item] Allow automation of common tasks
> 
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=44156
>  	[Commands] parameters: provide M-x-like command interface
> 
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=57105
>  	Macro Recorder like in Microsoft Office
> 
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=78637
> 	Patches to allow scripting plug-ins to build in 3.1
> 
> 
> Current work includes:
> 
> - Some scripting plug-ins already exist in CVS from Eclipse 1.0 but they were abandoned in 2.0 (see http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E/platform-scripting-home/main.html and https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=78637). There have only been 2 messages in the past 3 years in the platform-scripting-dev mailing list (http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/platform-scripting-dev/maillist.html). As far as I can tell, nobody is reading the bugzilla platform-scripting-inbox.
> 
> - According to the Dec 8, 2004 planning meeting notes there is some work going on in recording and playback for use in cheatsheets (http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/eclipse-dev/msg06717.html).
> 
> - The Sunshade BSF project on sourceforge (http://sunshade.sourceforge.net/) can associate scripts with keybindings and launch variables and bundles a javascript interpreter.
> 
> - The Autoeclipse project on sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/autoeclipse) is a research project to add BSF scripting to Eclipse platform.
> 
> - The Groovy project has an Eclipse plug-in for editing, building, and running groovy programs (http://groovy.codehaus.org/Eclipse+Plugin).
> 
> - CodePro Studio from Instantiations has the ability to run any Workbench Action from the Scheduler (http://www.instantiations.com/codepro/ws/docs/features/scheduler/).
> 
> - Netbeans dropped DynamicJava, BeanShell, and Jython (http://scripting.netbeans.org/) and added support for groovy (http://scripting.netbeans.org/servlets/NewsItemView?newsID=489). Perhaps this could be an area where Eclipse and Netbeans could cooperate (an "IDE-DOM" if you will).
> 
> 
> Call to action:
> 
> - If you can commit development time and expertise to this effort, post a message on the scripting list or drop me a line. I will coordinate if nobody else wants to.
> 
> - Review scripting related bugzilla entries and update them with your current use cases and requirements, or create new entries to capture your requirements. Reopen any that need to be reopened, close any that need to be closed, link any that need to be linked, and dup any that are duplicates.
> 
> - Help keep the discussion focused and the design simple, elegant, and powerful. It would be nice to have some preliminary things working for M5 to allow a lot of community feedback and iterative improvement.
> 
> - Followups to platform-scripting-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx .
> 
> --Ed
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