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Re: [platform-dev] Vote to stop bug auto-closing in all Eclipse platform projects
  • From: Mike Wilson <Mike_Wilson@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 13:37:12 +0000
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  • Thread-topic: [EXTERNAL] [platform-dev] Vote to stop bug auto-closing in all Eclipse platform projects

I definitely understand the negative comments about auto-closing bugs. For context, I can say that we've been discussing the pros and cons of auto-closing since the day the Eclipse Project had >1000 open bugs -- yes, that was many years ago.

 

In those days, we could at least make the claim that we reviewed all the open bugs occasionally, so we knew that they actually represented real issues in current versions of Eclipse, or they were ideas about new things we could conceive of doing at some point even if not in the short term.

 

The hard truth today, is as Alex said:

 

> In my opinion having bugs open without anyone looking into them for years

> is bad and even worse as it gives false sense of support which in reality is not there.

> I would change my mind if/when I see active triaging going on.

 

We talk about the harsh reaction people have about seeing their bugs auto-closed, but we don't talk about the fact that our current way of working leaves people with the feeling that reporting Eclipse bugs is a black hole. Today, reporting a bug (or a design improvement) that isn’t a critical failure on one of the main Eclipse developer flows is useless. I don’t know that auto-closing bugs helps with that, but at least if the reporter still cares about it, they have an opportunity to put it back in the committers view by re-opening it. that’s the piece of the auto-closing story that’s important: If someone re-opens a bug after 2 years (or however long we chose), we sure as heck better review it again. It is an issue that someone cares about.

 

So, you can see where this is going: My vote, FWIW, is -1 for “switch "off" bug auto-closing”. I would be happy to see updated wording on the auto-close message that made it clearer that re-opening the issue would cause it to be re-reviewed by current contributors, but I believe we should continue to auto-close.

 

McQ.

 

On 2022-02-17, 03:59, "platform-dev on behalf of Andrey Loskutov" <platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of loskutov@xxxxxx> wrote:

 

    Hi all,

 

    this is a follow up on PMC response https://www.eclipse.org/lists/platform-dev/msg03319.html

 

    As of today, this bug auto-closing is not active only for JDT project.

 

    The proposal is to switch "off" bug auto-closing for the all Eclipse platform projects, including Platform, JDT, PDE und Equinox.

    I don't think if we need an additional vote for PDE & Equinox, because the only active committers there are same as on the Eclipse platform.

 

    Therefore I would like to start voting to stop auto-closing bugs in bugzilla, github, gitlab (or whatever else bug trackers we might use in the future) for all Eclipse platform development.

 

    I think it is enough to post your +1 / 0 / -1 as a reply on this mailing list.

    Everyone is welcome to vote but binding votes are committers`votes.

    I would propose to conclude the vote by the end of the next week (25 February).

 

    Kind regards,

    Andrey Loskutov

 

    Спасение утопающих - дело рук самих утопающих

 

    https://www.eclipse.org/user/aloskutov

 

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