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RE: [phoenix-dev] First steps towards a better eclipse.org website
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I am not sure how other people handle it, but I am sure that many
websites in Germany use Google Analytics (and do not comply with Germany
law). But as an open source (open and transparent) organization we have
been considering privacy as an important issue in the past (protecting
email addresses e.g.), and I think we should continue to be very prudent
with user data.
It is not that I object to any of the goals that have been stated, but
leaving traces of the data in a central repository at Google makes me
feel uneasy. I would feel better if we could handle that ourselves.
Maybe that is too complicated or too expensive or not good enough with
respect to information quality, but I suggest doing some research before
jumping to Google Analytics just because it is easy.
Jochen
-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Skerrett [mailto:ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:10 PM
To: mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx; 'For developers on the new Eclipse.org
website project.'; Jochen Krause
Subject: RE: [phoenix-dev] First steps towards a better eclipse.org
website
Jochen,
Does this mean web sites that use Google Analytics turn it off for
browsers
that originate in Germany? Just wondering how people are handling
this?
Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: phoenix-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:phoenix-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Milinkovich
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:05 PM
To: 'Jochen Krause'; 'For developers on the new Eclipse.org website
project.'
Subject: RE: [phoenix-dev] First steps towards a better eclipse.org
website
So based on Google Translation, the article states that German law
asserts that IP addresses are personally identifiable data.
Crazy Germans indeed.
> -----Original Message-----
> German law is very strict when it comes to privacy. There have been
> two recent rulings where a German ministry that has been using
> Analytics has been convicted to remove Google Analytics. The minister
> is personally in charge to make sure that they are not using it, if
> they breach she has to pay a charge of 250K and could even go to jail.
>
> http://www.pressetext.ch/pte.mc?pte=080407028 (info only available in
> German)
>
> Crazy Germans, but there is some risk ...
>
> Jochen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phoenix-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:phoenix-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Milinkovich
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 6:39 PM
> To: 'For developers on the new Eclipse.org website project.'
> Subject: RE: [phoenix-dev] First steps towards a better eclipse.org
> website
>
> Jochen,
>
> I don't understand that comment. Can you please elaborate?
>
> To the best of my knowledge, Google Analytics does not track any
> user-identifiable data. Given that, what are the concerns you are
> raising?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > If we really want do this we need to indicate that on the web page,
> > otherwise we can get into serious trouble in Europe. Tracking user
> > data ourselves like with EPP is fine with me, tracking it using a
> > third party service like Google is not something that I am keen on.
>
>
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