I am
assuming you did the update of the
project page.
I did. I cannot deny it as CVS history shows that to be the case :-)
- It seems like you are not
using the standard look and feel of the other pages, (ie left nav and
right nav bar). This makes them look inconsistent with the rest of
our web site.
That is sort of true.
The new /projects/ page uses the Phoenix skin and it uses the top menu
bar and the standard header and footer buttons and links.
The left menu and right nav were not providing value to the target
audience for the page, so I excluded them to improve the value to the
audience.
N.B. I tried using an all-purple color scheme and it was just too
dreary and depressing, so I chose a set of Web 2.0 colors instead.
- You have created a new
description for Eclipse, under Eclipse Projects. Not sure why you did
this but I would like us to be consistent in our descriptions
The right box on the /projects/ page is there to answer questions that
I repeatedly get about Eclipse and the Eclipse projects. If the
standard description were to answer those questions, I'd be happy to
use the same text. Currently it does not (as evidenced by the number of
people who approach me in person or by email and ask "what is Eclipse?"
or "isn't Eclipse just an IBM Java IDE?")
- The search page you
created seems a bit odd? Why don’t we just change the main search so
it uses Google?
I'm not sure what's odd about it. Anyway, regardless, I do not control
the main search so I didn't touch the main search. If Denis wants to
change the main search to use Google, I'd be happy to help with that
(although Denis is perfectly competent to do it on his own: in fact,
he's better at this stuff than I am).
- Personally I like the old
projects pages much better. IMO it provides the information people
would expect to see under the ‘project’ category.
Funny that you should say that since when I create the previous page,
you said:
The new format provides information to a more diverse audience and
requires only one additional click to get to the detailed project
information that you have now become accustomed to.
In general
though, I would like to know
why you are not following the Phoenix
development process.
I think this is obviously a ‘high impact’ change, so it
should have bug report and a +1 vote.
I have never followed that process. I didn't before and I'm not doing
so now. I don't agree with it: it stifles innovation and reduces
support for our community (just look at our home page as an example).
Phoenix is not a open source project: there are no active
non-Foundation employees. The eclipse.org main pages are a corporate
website (the Eclipse Foundation Inc) - using a pseudo-open source
strategy to define those pages results in a static, dull, and
IBM-corporate looking website that does not serve our different
audiences well. My role is foster the Committer Community around the
Eclipse projects. The /projects/ pages are one mechanism I have to do
that. Like all major internet properties, I continue to evolve that set
of pages to support the committers. Some of my changes are good ideas,
some are bad ideas, but at least I'm trying new things based on
feedback from the community I support.
- Bjorn
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