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meh... I accidentally only sent to pdt-eg mailing list.


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From: Jacek PospychaÅa <jacek.pospychala@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Providing an All-In-One PDT Eclipse distribution
To: pdt-extensions-platform@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


hi Robert,
it's a great initiative and I'd love to see you succeed!
If there's anything specific from PDT side that you're missing please
don't hesitate to bug me about it. I'll do anything I can.

>From Eclipse Foundation side of things, I always wanted to see Eclipse
PHP package listed on http://www.eclipse.org/downloads. IMHO it has
great visibility, downloads rates for some packages are just enormous
(e.g. magnitude higher than top marketplace packages) and it's sad
that there's no package for PHP devs. Now that you're looking into
packaging, have you considered the EPP initiative? It has it's own
constraints, but maybe would be interesting to you.

Jacek


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Robert GrÃndler <r.gruendler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> after over 2 years of maintaining PDT related plugins, i've come to the
> following conclusions:
>
> A lot of people have a hard time setting up an eclipse instance to suite
> their needs for PHP development - with the multitude of all the existing
> plugins available.
> More and more people move over to PHPStorm
>
> The migration to PHPStorm imho has 2 main reasons:
>
> Out-Of-The-Box experience: simply download the thing and start working
> Better performance
>
> I think both issues can be addressed by providing a plain Eclipse
> distribution targeting especially the needs of PHP / Web developers.  By
> releasing a custom distribution, we can for example provide a tweaked
> eclipse.ini with optimized JVM settings.
>
> Also, a custom distribution could pre-configure other features to improve
> the performance / user experience, for example by disabling useless
> validators etc.
>
> I've therefore started working on a tycho-built eclipse distro based on the
> following features (so far):
>
> - DLTK 5.0
> - PDT 3.2
> - PDT Extensions Core
> - Composer Plugin
> - PHP Tool Integration
> - MakeGood
> - Json Editor
> - Yaml Editor
>
> Another reason why a custom distribution would be an advantage is that we
> don't have to rely on patches being applied to the Eclipse
> runtime, like this one here, which would be a rather great improvement for
> anyone working with webapplications:
>
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=351303
>
> Here's what the distro could provide on an Eclipse-Runtime Level:
>
> - Register an eclipse:// URL protocol, so Stack-Trace links in the browser
> could be opened directly in eclipse (like Sublimetext or Textmate work on
> osx)
> - Provide a Listener-Extension for the SWT.OpenDocument event, so plugins
> can import existing projects by drag & drop onto Eclipse
>
> The product i'm working on will be fully open-source and free of charge,
> however i'm also thinking of ways to fund the development of new features
> to PDT Core / PDT-Extensions or any other related plugin. My main ideas are:
>
> - Go down the crowd-funding route, for example like py-dev has been doing:
> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pydev-and-liclipse-for-a-fast-sexy-and-dark-eclipse
> - Find sponsors for new features, similar to what travis-ci does:
> https://travis-ci.org/
>
>
> Any feedback greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> regards
>
> -robert
>
>
>
>
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