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Re: [p2-dev] can platform be updated via p2?

Actually,  I've been able to determine:

1. Our product installs a single Freescale-specific root IU.
2. For CDT and RSE, the IU range spans to a high number (10.0.0), which explains why I had no trouble updating those two features.
3. For all the platform IUs (org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.win32.win32.x86, org.eclipse.equinox.launcher, org.eclipse.equinox.p2.user.ui.feature.group, org.eclipse.platform.feature.group), the range is restricted to a single version! [x.y.z,x.y.z]. This would explain why I've been unable to upgrade those IUs.

I think I know how to proceed from here. Thanks for your help!
John

On 11/10/2011 9:31 PM, Pascal Rapicault wrote:
Then you have two possibilities:
1) Specify ranges in the "Your product" IU
- In this case "Your Product" just has ranges on all the things it uses, which then allow you to replace anything by requesting the install. For example you would be able to replace CDT with another version by just picking something from an update site. Note that this solution would not tell the user when there are updates available, but would give power users the possibility to mess around :)

2) Do not use a top level IU
- In this case you no longer have the "Your product" IU. Instead what you initially distribute (probably through a zip) would be 
|--> CDT 5.0.1
|--> Platform 3.7.1
|--> RSE 2.0.0
which allows you to install and remove any component at will (the previous setup you would not be able to get rid of CDT) and also benefit from the notification of new updates.


On 2011-11-10, at 10:20 PM, John Cortell wrote:

That makes sense, but it's a bit heavy for what I'm trying to do. The final mix will be used for internal testing, not for delivering to customers. We want to be able to test a change in our Eclipse platform with an existing product. I had hoped I could "swap in" a newer build of the platform with minimal hassle. Having to define a new top-level product IU, while possible, is a significant inconvenience. It would be nice if I could tell p2 to relax its dependency checking and just let me remove and install whatever I want--sort of an "expert/let-me-shoot-myself-in-the-foot" mode. If the end result is broken, so be it.

John

On 11/10/2011 8:47 PM, Pascal Rapicault wrote:
Assuming your product has the following dependency structure (where each item in the tree is a p2 IU):

Your product 1.0
|--> CDT 5.0.1
|---> Platform 3.7.1
|--> RSE 2.0.0
|---> Platform 3.7.1
|--> Platform 3.7.1

then you will have to create a new version of the "Your product" IU that points at new version of the pieces. 

Your product 1.1
|--> CDT 5.0.2
|---> Platform 3.7.2
|--> RSE 2.0.0
|---> Platform 3.7.2
|--> Platform 3.7.2

This structure gives you complete control over what your user gets since when you publish a new update, the user sees that there is an update to "Your product" and not the individual pieces he does not want to know about. Note that even though the product version has changed only the bundles that have actually been changed will be downloaded.

HTH

On 2011-11-10, at 9:34 PM, John Cortell wrote:

So, it looks like I'm still stuck. We now internally have a p2 repo with the platform.ide IU. So, I can upgrade a pure platform installation (an installation with only the platform and no upstream components) via p2 thanks to the help I got from the folks on this list.

However, what I'm ultimately trying to do is upgrade the platform in a complete Eclipse commercial product--an installation that has not only the platform, but CDT, RSE and a variety of other components. Naturally, they all have a dependency on the platform.

So, the question is: how do I swap in a newer platform without uninstalling all the upstream pieces that rely on the platform? Is that at all possible? Is there a way to tell p2 "uninstall this piece even though other things depend on it, so that I may install a newer version of it".

John

On 10/27/2011 3:32 PM, DJ Houghton wrote:

If I'm reading what you're describing correctly, you are starting with a 3.6.0 SDK zip. You can't take a 3.6 SDK and replace the platform that it contains. What the error message you posted says is that the SDK 3.6.0 requires the Platform 3.6.0 and if you install Platform 3.6.1 then you will break it.

Coincidentally enough, the p2 team has been working on a new feature so if you run into the problem described above, we will recommend that you also update the SDK to 3.6.1 (if available) and then your install will complete. The feature is almost implemented and will appear in the 3.8 integration builds soon.

If you use the Platform zip (e.g. eclipse-platform-3.6.1-macosx-cocoa-x86_64.tar.gz) you will see the platform.ide IU:
<unit id='org.eclipse.platform.ide' version='3.6.1.M20100909-0800'>

So to fix your problem you either need to use a Platform zip (and update the org.eclipse.platform.ide IU) or change your command-line to update the org.eclipse.sdk.ide IU.



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There is no IU called org.eclipse.platform.ide in the p2 zip (org.eclipse.platform-3.6.1.zip). The only IUs in that p2 with 'platform' in the name are:
      org.eclipse.platform
      org.eclipse.platform.doc.user
      org.eclipse.platform.feature.group
      org.eclipse.platform.feature.jar
      org.eclipse.platform_root
Here's what I get (cleaned up) when I try to update the platform in the 3.6 SDK with the one from the 3.6.1 p2 zip
      Cannot complete the install because of a conflicting dependency.
      Software being installed: Eclipse Platform 3.6.1.r361_v20100909-9gF78GrkFqw7GrsZnvz0JWNTeb6fue6896L (org.eclipse.platform.feature.group 3.6.1.r361_v20100909-9gF78GrkFqw7GrsZnvz0JWNTeb6fue6896L)
      Software currently installed: Eclipse SDK 3.6.0.I20100608-0911 (org.eclipse.sdk.ide 3.6.0.I20100608-0911)
      Only one of the following can be installed at once:
      Eclipse Platform 3.6.0.v201006080911 (org.eclipse.platform 3.6.0.v201006080911)
      Eclipse Platform 3.6.1.v201009090800 (org.eclipse.platform 3.6.1.v201009090800)
      [snip]
I've tried specifying each of the IUs listed above. None of them work.

Finally, here's the cmdline I'm using:

"C:\eclipse_3.7\eclipsec" ^
-application org.eclipse.equinox.p2.director ^
-nosplash ^
-consoleLog ^
-profile SDKProfile ^
-installIU "org.eclipse.platform.feature.group" ^
-repository
file:/f:/temp/testp2/plat361p2 ^
-destination f:\temp\testp2\sdk36\eclipse

John


At 11:46 AM 10/27/2011, DJ Houghton wrote:
      Yes, you should be able to update the platform via p2. If you have the platform zip, the platform.feature.group may be blocked by the org.eclipse.platform.ide InstallableUnit. Try updating that instead. _______________________________________________
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