Re: [orion-dev] Maven/Tycho build

[John Arthorne <John_Arthorne@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes I found some bugs with more discussion.
Without this console, Orion would be a completely headless application
so it would not show up in the dock at all. Some Mac users found this painful:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=336103
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=336094

So let's keep it around for now, on
Mac only.

John





From:      
 Ken Walker/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA
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 01/30/2013 09:35 AM
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I use a Mac all the time.  When
testing or using a local Orion server I have never used the console.  If
the info simply went to a log file that would likely be fine.  So
long as I still had the double-clickable icon and it showed up in the task
bard and I could stop it with the menu.

It might be that the console and the menu are related.

Ken Walker
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John
Arthorne---2013/01/30 09:28:45 AM---Matthias Sohn <matthias.sohn@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote on 01/29/2013 05:44:06 PM: > - what's org.eclipse.orio

From:	John Arthorne/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA
To:	Orion developer discussions <orion-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date:	2013/01/30 09:28 AM
Subject:	Re: [orion-dev] Maven/Tycho build
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Matthias Sohn <matthias.sohn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote on 01/29/2013 05:44:06
PM:
> - what's org.eclipse.orion.server.ui used for ? It seems this bundle
> brings most of the server's dependencies but is only supported on
Mac ? 

This bundle is used to bring up a server console window on Mac. On Windows
it is not needed because Windows opens a Java console window by default.
On Linux it is not needed because people usually start the server from
a shell and pipe console output to file. I would be curious to hear if
others still think this Mac console window is useful. Are any Mac users
on this list actually using this console window to interact with the server.
We could simplify (and shrink) our builds by getting rid of it.

> - I am not yet sure which configuration settings the 
> org.eclipse.orion.server.tests need 

This is currently configured in org.eclipse.orion.server.tests/test.xml.
There is no separate configuration file. The server tests bundle starts
up the server by itself in the same process. Here is the relevant snippet
with the required VM arguments: 

                    
  <property
name="extraVMargs"
value="-Declipse.log.level=WARNING
                    
                     
                     
                     
        -Dorg.eclipse.equinox.http.jetty.http.port=7070
                    
                     
                     
                     
        -Dorg.eclipse.equinox.http.jetty.autostart=false
                    
                     
                     
                     
        -Dorion.tests.authtype=Basic"
/>

> 
> - how is org.eclipse.orion.tools.batch used ?

This bundle isn't built. It just contains some command line utilities that
I have used for metadata cleanup and conversion on our servers. I typically
build it manually when needed from my workspace. There is no need to include
it in automated builds at this point. 

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