Re: [orion-dev] orion and debugging story?

[Ken Walker <Ken_Walker@xxxxxxxxxx>]

It depends on how much we can leverage talking to the browser tools. I'm saying in the short term it's not feasible for us write a full debug UI for _javascript_.

I'm saying at a minimum we should be able to set/clear breakpoints in the Orion editor. If more can be accomplished we need to figure out how to integrate debug tools in the browser within our editor page (or vise versa) .

Also wide open for opinions here.

/Ken


John J Barton ---03/05/2012 12:45:55 PM---On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Ken Walker <Ken_Walker@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I think that in the 1.0

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Date:	03/05/2012 12:45 PM
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On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Ken Walker <Ken_Walker@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I think that in the 1.0 timeline a focus should be integrating with existing debug tools vs. attempting to replace them. With what we might be able to get through the console implementation it should be feasible to at least set/remove breakpoints in the Orion editor provided you're not debugging a minified version of the file. To me this is a minimum that we need to support.

Do you mean: the breakpoint set/remove would be available in the Orion UI, but driving the app, showing the state of the machine, stepping, continuing etc would all be done through the another UI?

jjb

Longer term, for languages we cannot leverage a debugger for in the browser we should be looking to implement both a compelling UI and framework for talking to systems under debug. This is not what I would consider a 1.0 item however.

/Ken


Andy Clement ---03/01/2012 05:08:37 PM---Hi, Someone briefly touched on debugging this morning on the call and I've

From:	Andy Clement <andrew.clement@xxxxxxxxx>
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Date:	03/01/2012 05:08 PM
Subject:	[orion-dev] orion and debugging story?
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Hi,

Someone briefly touched on debugging this morning on the call and I've
been having a little exchange with Grant about it as I've been trying
to get the existing debug stuff going (still not having much luck),
but I thought I'd try and get some info through the mailing list if
anyone has time to spell things out...

I'm basically trying to understand the longer term goals of debug with
Orion. I've had a dig around, couldn't find much in the docs but
found a little in some old bugzillas and a line or two in the plans.
Is there anything else I could look at? (I might just be bad at using
google)

I know it is quite early days for some of this stuff but what is the
experience likely to be when 'finished' (or, say, in the 1.0
timeframe):
- is Orion ever planned to have a debug 'page' that looks like the
eclipse debugger/chrome dev tools? (stack view, variables view, editor
with 'hotswap', etc)

or is the plan something less/different than that?

many thanks for any info,
Andy
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