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Thanks David.
Just for the records, I'm really glad that you accepted
this new role. My concern with respect to the nomination was just that nobody
might dare speak up in the light of Jeff's authority, so I thought I'd take the
blame on myself :-) Special thanks to Markus and yourself for working with Bjorn
on a better process definition for PL voting.
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior Member of Technical
Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project
Lead, DSDP PMC Member
Thank you all for your votes of confidence.
The process is complete
and I am now your new leader!
As you can imagine, given that Jeff set
so many things in smooth motion, there won't be changes to Orbit based on this
change in leadership, but, if anyone needs any Project-Lead-type stuff, feel
free to ask me, and in many cases remind me. :)
One the issues of
method and transparency, I agree the process of getting a new Project Lead is
not well understood, or documented (in fact, some of the existing
documentation is clearly wrong, and Bjorn has agreed to put in on the list of
things to improve in the next revision of the development process).
But given that, I can explain, in general, the normal process is for a
PMC to determine a candidate to lead a project and ask for confirmation vote
from the project's committers.
In my case, I know I was asked a long
long time ago (6 months?) when Jeff felt he couldn't "give it justice" due to
his other commitments. I originally declined (due to workload). I recently
changed my mind and decided to accept, given that the workload won't really
increase much from what I am already doing ... and because I like Eclipse so
much, Orbit in particular!
As always, it is the committers that make a
successful Project (not the leadership) and I think that the committers in
Orbit are some of the best, most dedicated committers in Eclipse, and it's a
pleasure to work with you.
Thanks again
 Simon
Kaegi ---02/09/2009 12:02:55 PM---We've now waited an extra week without any
comment to your email. Is this sufficient to satisfy any
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We've now waited an extra week without any comment to
your email.
Is this sufficient to satisfy any process requirements or do
we have to do something through the portal?
My take is that this is
sufficient and that the hand-over process should begin officially if it hasn't
already.
-Simon
Jeff
McAffer ---02/02/2009 03:47:09 PM---Of course you are correct in observing
that the vote moved very quickly and that I likely should have left it sit for
the full
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Of course you are correct in
observing that the vote moved very quickly and that I likely should have left
it sit for the full week. The "pressing issue" is that I do not and have not
had the time to devote to Orbit and there are things that need to get done.
Since I started the Orbit project some years ago I've also added several other
project responsibilities to my list. Lately I have not been paying as much
attention to Orbit as I should have (though the related CQs sure keep me
busy). Frankly it has only been running thanks to the quality hard work of
people like David. With the flood of new things and people for Galileo and the
development cycle closing I felt quite some project and personal pressure to
"do it or get out".
As for the activity level, that has been a topic
of much discussion. My statistical statements were not to imply that inactive
participants do not get a vote but rather it wold only be reasonable to expect
responses from folks who have been active/participating. We had an
overwhelming and rapid response and IMHO the chances of a negative vote
appearing are/were vanishingly small so rather than waiting for the inevitable
I pressed forward to keep things rolling.
Not sure where to go from
here. I certainly declare mea culpa and throw myself on the mercy of the Orbit
community. Does anyone feel strongly that I should be undoing the EMO
process?
Jeff
Oberhuber, Martin wrote:
Hm...
is there anything that forces us to
have the decision made so
quickly?
The call for vote was
on Friday 8pm CET. I find it great that
such a large number of
Orbit committers have given their +1
vote over the weekend until
10am CET, but putting it into
the records that there was no 0 or
-1 vote just over the weekend
seems a bit odd.
In my
opinion, it would seem more natural to have a week pass
before
declaring the result, unless there are pressing issues.
I'm not at
all against David, and I extremely appreciate his
expertise, effort
and thoughtfulness. I further assume that
there are good reasons
for Jeff to resign, though I have also
much appreciated his "final
word" and crisp decision on things.
Has anybody else even been
asked whether he'd want to assume
leadership?
Furthermore,
in terms of Orbit, I suspect that the activity
counting is not
correct. I'm listed as "inactive" which is
understandable in terms
of commits, since the libs under my
custody haven't changed; but I
have been active on the
mailing list, have immediately voted
whenever possible,
updated the Wiki and been active on
Bugzilla.
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project_summary.php?projectid=tools.orbi
t
Sorry, but this process doesn't seem as open and
transparent
as it should be. Again, if there are pressing needs to
expedite
this, I'm OK with David. If not, I'm in favor of doing
this
properly.
Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber, Senior
Member of Technical Staff, Wind River
Target Management Project
Lead, DSDP PMC Member
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