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RE: [orbit-dev] RE: Do we need to providewrapper featuresforbatik from Orbit?

Hi Jeff,
 
sorry for the confusion. I was not proposing that Orbit should provide template features.
 
I was just proposing that the actual users of Orbit bundles (which currently have to
include those bundles in some features anyways, at least if they want to use update
manager) add a reference to their already existing features in a common place.
The reference could be a ViewVC hyperlink.
 
That common place can be a file in the repository, or - perhaps better since writable
for everyone - a wiki page.

Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member
http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm

 


From: orbit-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:orbit-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff McAffer
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I am concerned about confusion here.  We supply features but they are only template features.  furthermore, features are likely to go away in the new provisioning story so I am loath to introduce them in new places (yes, I realize that they are here today and we need to support the scenario you outline).  Post-features we will still need this information so I am thinking that we should just have the information that is needed and not tie it to features.

Jeff



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Because feature.properties requires escaping the newlines with a \
at the end of each line, I figured that it might be simpler copy & pasting
from a feature.properties into another feature.properties.
 
That way, the initial provider of a feature.properties file has no extra
work updating the IP log, and the consumer who wants to copy
can take an actually working, verbatim copy.

Cheers,
--
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Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member

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Perhaps we should just include the relevant about text in the IP log.  Taht way people writing a fetaure can just get and include that text as needed....  Amounts to mostly the same thing but perhaps a bit simpler.


Jeff



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Hello Xiaojing,

 

Orbit practice is that every product/download which wants to use

bundles from Orbit just includes those Orbit bundles in its features.

 

There is no "wrapper feature" for a single Orbit delivery any more.

 

In terms of the license text for your features, you will need to include

references to the licenses under which your Orbit bundles are,

in your own feature.properties. Since potentially multiple projects
need to do that for multiple features, it might be a good idea to
maintain these in a central location or at least maintain a pointer

to where a sample feature.properties is.

 

This might be another application for the IP Log that's currently

being discussed in Orbit: See

http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Orbit_IP_Log
 

I added this comment: I think we should also have a "used-by"

section listing all the projects at Eclipse.org which are known
to actually use a bundle/version (i.e. include it in one of their features).

A hyperlink into ViewVC for the CVS/SVN version of the feature

project would perhaps be most helpful. This would not only track

usage, but also help other projects who want to adopt it get started

with their own feature.xml / feature.properties. When I'm not mistaken,

from a legal standpoint every project needs to put an Orbit bundle

it wants to pick up through review for usage in their project, so it seems

natural to maintain the list of known users.

 

As long as this is not yet in place, the maintainer of an Orbit

bundle is the first address to ask for a good feature.xml / feature.properties

example, since it is very likely that this maintainer uses the bundle

in his or her own project.

Cheers,
--
Martin Oberhuber
Wind River Systems, Inc.
Target Management Project Lead, DSDP PMC Member

http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm




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Hi

 
We are switching to use batik from Orbit.

Since Orbit download doesn’t provider “wrapper” features, does every project need to provide “wrapper” features (e.g. org.apache.batik.feature) themselves? If so, I’m confused how to make these features have consistent features versions?

If no wrapper features are expected to provide by each project themselves in Europa, does that mean users will need to download Orbit project from website or install from Europa Update Site first?

 
Thanks,

Xiaoying Gu

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