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Re: [open-regulatory-compliance] Draft Technical Descriptions

Within such a product, which is not usable without the WebAPIs and part of the „data processing solution“ as Tobie said would be in scope. However WebAPIs by themselves, offered as a service, might not be in scope. (for example, depends on the context I guess)

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Dr. Florian Idelberger


Karlsruher Institut für Technologie (KIT)
Zentrum für Angewandte Rechtswissenschaft (ZAR)
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KIT - Universität des Landes Baden-Württemberg und
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Am 15.03.2025 um 17:41 schrieb Dick Brooks via open-regulatory-compliance <open-regulatory-compliance@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

Thanks for sharing your insights Tobie. Much appreciated. 
 
Many of the product listed in Annex I and Annex II depend on “Web Service API’s” to function, for example:
 
17. Smart home products with security functionalities, including smart door locks, security cameras, baby monitoring systems and alarm systems 
 
Does this example imply that the Web Service API’s used by these devices are also in scope for the EU CRA requirements?
 
Thanks for your help in understanding these details.
 
Thanks,
 
Dick Brooks
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From: Tobie Langel <tobie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2025 12:25 PM
To: dick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Open Regulatory Compliance Working Group <open-regulatory-compliance@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [open-regulatory-compliance] Draft Technical Descriptions
 
Thanks for your question, Dick.
 
The product categories listed in this draft regulation are only for important and critical categories. Most products that are in scope of the CRA are actually not part of those two categories. I opened an FAQ on the topic here: https://github.com/orcwg/cra-hub/issues/166.
 
Additionally, wrt your question about Web APIs, it depends whether they're part of the remote data processing solutions of products who are in scope of the CRA (in which case they're also in scope, see FAQ tmp-2) or not (in which case they're not in scope, see FAQ tmp-156).
 
Hope this helps.
 
--tobie
 
On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 6:56PM Dick Brooks via open-regulatory-compliance <open-regulatory-compliance@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Before I open my big mouth and submit comments, I want to get some help from this group.
 
Looking at the product categories listed in Annex I of the standards request, I can’t determine if a “Web Service API” will be “in scope”.
 
Does anyone have thoughts on this? Are “Web Service API” products considered in scope based on the Annex I and Annex II descriptions?
 
 
Thanks,
 
Dick Brooks
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Active Member of the CISA Critical Manufacturing Sector, 
Sector Coordinating Council – A Public-Private Partnership
 
Risk always exists, but trust must be earned and awarded.™ 
Tel: +1 978-696-1788
 
 
From: open-regulatory-compliance <open-regulatory-compliance-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Steffen Zimmermann via open-regulatory-compliance
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2025 7:50 PM
To: open-regulatory-compliance@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Steffen Zimmermann <steffen.zimmermann@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [open-regulatory-compliance] Draft Technical Descriptions
 
Hi all,

as you might have seen already, the Draft Technical Descriptions have been published on the EC website. 

Time until April 10th for comments. 

The Expert Group CRA of the will then be in charge, together with the Commission, to improve the definitions based on the comments received. 
 

Best Regards,

Steffen Zimmermann
Industrial Security @ VDMA

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