RE: [mylyn-dev] Checklists with Mylyn

["Mik Kersten" <mik@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

>From a technical point of view this is trivial.  The API requires all tasks
to have IDs.  The problem is that we don't expose these IDs anywhere in the
UI for local tasks, and if we did, we're concerned that they would be too
weird looking.  We could consider doing something like allowing hyperlinking
to local tasks, only showing the IDs in the hyperlink text, and relying on
people using Ctrl+Space to insert them.  

If you're interested in hyperlinks for local tasks please file a bug.

Mik

--
Mik Kersten
CEO, http://tasktop.com/blog
Project Lead, http://eclipse.org/mylyn

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Bresie [mailto:ebresie@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:47 PM
> To: mik@xxxxxxxxxxx; Mylyn developer discussions
> Subject: Re: [mylyn-dev] Checklists with Mylyn
> 
> Looking in the workspace/.mylyn/tasks.xml.zip file, I find the tasks
> which are stored in an XML file.  In the XML file, I see a Task entity
> with a "Handle"  attribute.
> 
> Can you use some form of XPath or similar query mechanism to reference
> it maybe?
> 
> I guess to truly answer this one, I need to work on understand how the
> XML Dom handling APIs work in Eclipse.
> 
> Eric
> 
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Mik Kersten <mik@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Regarding structuring local tasks, you will have the ability to
> ability to
> > make subtasks of local tasks once the next weekly build goes out.
> >
> > 238498: enable local subtasks
> > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=238498
> >
> > Regarding linking them, so you could do something like making a
> freeform
> > checklist on a local task, it would be nice if we could support that.
> The
> > problem is that we decided early on that having IDs for local
> subtasks was
> > overly complex, and haven't come up with a hyperlinking scheme that
> does not
> > rely on IDs.
> >
> > Mik
> >
> > --
> > Mik Kersten
> > CEO, http://tasktop.com/blog
> > Project Lead, http://eclipse.org/mylyn
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Eric Bresie [mailto:ebresie@xxxxxxxxx]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 5:29 PM
> >> To: mik@xxxxxxxxxxx; Mylyn developer discussions
> >> Subject: Re: [mylyn-dev] Checklists with Mylyn
> >>
> >> Not sure it matters, but I was thinking more for local tasks (not
> with
> >> repository based ones).  I guess this was kind of a way of
> collecting
> >> dependency local tasks (do local task 1, check, do local task 2,
> >> check...).  Other than time scheduling, I don't know how one defines
> >> dependencies for local tasks.
> >>
> >> So what is the URL/URN that someone would have to use to reference a
> >> local task?
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Mik Kersten <mik@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > We consider this additional planning functionality (e.g., check
> >> lists,
> >> > product/release plans) to fall outside of the scope of Mylyn, but
> do
> >> > prioritize integration with such tools.  For example, we want to
> make
> >> sure
> >> > that you can always create a checklist or plan, and be able to
> link
> >> Mylyn
> >> > tasks/bugs/issues as part of that plan.
> >> >
> >> > The challenge is that with Mylyn alone, we can only supported
> >> structured
> >> > links within Eclipse.  This is one of the reasons why the new
> >> WikiText
> >> > component was so relevant to the project.  It will soon allow you
> to
> >> create
> >> > a wiki markup checklist that has task references like "bug 123".
> >> >
> >> > The story changes when you make the Eclipse the default browser,
> >> which is
> >> > exactly what Tasktop does on Windows.  You can put a hyperlink to
> any
> >> task
> >> > in a web repository into any application.  I do this all the time,
> >> linking
> >> > tasks from both wiki pages and apps like Microsoft Excel and
> Project,
> >> and
> >> > having the URLs resolve instantly in Mylyn's task editor, whether
> I'm
> >> online
> >> > or not.
> >> >
> >> > Mik
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: mylyn-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mylyn-dev-
> >> >> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Bresie
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:27 AM
> >> >> To: mylyn-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Subject: [mylyn-dev] Checklists with Mylyn
> >> >>
> >> >> Hey guys, I was reviewing some tutorials in Eclipse and found the
> >> nice
> >> >> "Checklist" based training on a number of interesting topics.
> This
> >> >> got me wondering....is there any way to make a checklist that can
> >> >> reference a specific task?  So in other words, there would be a
> >> >> containing checklist that references a number of Mylyn tasks?
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe I should ask, is there a way to provide a URL/URN of some
> type
> >> >> that could be referenced in a html document or something similar.
> >> >>
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> Eric Bresie
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