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Re: [mylar-dev] Fwd: My 2 cents about Mylar development
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Hi Lubos,
Thanks for the honest feedback. A side opinion is always valuable.
I guess it can't be helped, no matter how hard I am trying to not
being sarcastic, it is just an old habit of mine that die hard. If
you've been around for some time you should know that I never meat to
intentionally harm, offend or upset anyone and always trying to
encourage discussion and collaboration on ideas.
So, please don't be offended by my presence, and please do participate
into the discussion. My arrogant remarks never important, but technical
issues always are.
regards,
Eugene
Lubos and Alena Pochman wrote:
I sent this message to Mik and he requested that I forwarded it to the
list in order to keep this communication out in the open. I do not
feel entirely comfortable doing that, I do not want to start flame
war, and I do not want to hurt anybody. But I have a lot of respect
for Mik, and for the way he manages Mylar and therefore I decided to
forward this initially private message to Mylar dev list.
Lubos Pochman
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: *Lubos and Alena Pochman* <pochmans@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:pochmans@xxxxxxxxx>>
Date: May 25, 2007 7:44 AM
Subject: My 2 cents about Mylar development
To: Mik Kersten <beatmik@xxxxxxx <mailto:beatmik@xxxxxxx>>
Mik,
I was following the latest discussion between you and Eugene and
decided to use your email to comment on it, because I do not want to
be drawn into flaming war.
Based on my personal experience (and it is only one old man opinion
8-), you are right on many points, by saying that discussion the way
Eugene does it some times,
discourages other people to participate in discussion and maybe even
in considering to contribute to the project.
Eugene is brilliant technically and his ideas and implementations are
great lot of times. But his social and communication skills are very
poor and arrogant.
I always thought that social and communication skills are not that
important for software developers, but I think I was wrong.
Maybe it is culture issue, but I also come from Eastern Europe and
this behavior was not normal when I lived there.
I decided to stay away from the mylar dev list as much as possible,
and if I have some problems, I try to solve them myself (usually by
debugging).
People who "do not live" in Mylar code, and therefore are not Mylar
experts cannot have the expertise of the development team members. But
that does not mean
that they or their programming skills are inferior.
Note, that this is just one man opinion, and I very much appreciate
contributions Eugene makes to Mylar. Maybe I am just too sensitive.
I am big fan of open source, and I am managing one open source project
myself (Luntbuild), but I can honestly say, that Mylar is one project
I would not join as
developer, because of this "unfriendly" environment.
I think, that you are doing great job managing the project and Mylar
has great potential! I am big fan of Mylar as a user.
But maybe it would be good idea to separate dev mailing list and user
mailing list, and keep the passionate and sometimes "scary" discussion
in dev list,
and keep Mylar user related discussion in users list, where developers
would participate, but they would use more user friendly approach to
the discussion.
Sorry for the rumbling, Lubos