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so you would rather never support java 11 than releasing a Xtext
3.0
or would you simply bump the dependencies, try to use guava 24-21
api only and dont care about manifest compatibility?
how does that fit with orbits policy to delete stuff?
Am 03.09.2018 um 08:38 schrieb Sven
Efftinge:
Because of the huge impact with bumping the major
version, we never do that, even if we can't avoid breaking a
couple of clients.
It is just better to break a hand full of clients than
stopping everyone from updating to the latest version.
There is no general answer, it always depends on whether
the benefits of such an upgrade carry the downsides
(breaking).
Bumping the major version has such bad downsides that I'd
consider it never being a good idea.
The main
problem is:
what if e.g. java 11 requires to update these libaries?
how did you handle that is the past?
(https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=5816)
which was done in Nov. 2011 which was likely Xtext 2.1 or 2.2
=> no major version bump
=> i'am totally unsure what binary compatibility means
regardings
dependencies / manifests (we have other things that break e.g.
through
orbit changes
Thanks
Christian
Am 03.09.18 um 08:22 schrieb Sven Efftinge (sven@xxxxxxxxxxx):
> Hi Christian,
>
> those libraries are used by users, so those changes will
be exposed to
> them. I haven't looked closely into what API has changed
in those versions,
> but if they have bumped the major version, there might be
something in it
> that breaks. I assume they follow semantic versioning,
too.
>
> That said, bumping Xtext's major version will be a huge
problem for Eclipse
> clients, because older existing versions will not work
with it. And
> because we have singleton plug-ins in every Eclipse
installation there can
> be only one version of Xtext. We have discussed this for
years. Bumping the
> major version is a bad idea.
>
> Sven
>
>
> Am Sa., 1. Sep. 2018 um 14:31 Uhr schrieb Christian
Dietrich <
> christian.dietrich@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
>> Hello guys.
>>
>> i need your assistance with regards the rules op api
changes and version
>> bumps.
>>
>> if we increase our dependency at Xtext to Guice 4.x
and Guava 23.x would
>> that require a Xtext 3.0? i am not sure if binary
compatibility is given
>> by such a change.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Christian
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