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[modeling-pmc] Re: GMT code has not moved into Modeling
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Dear Janet,
We are going to work with all the GMT component owners
in order to address these issues as soon as possible.
Jean
On Feb 1, 2008 4:41 PM, Janet Campbell <janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Information in IPZilla related to contributions pre-dating the Foundation's
> existence will be based on About files and reflect third party content only.
> Information after the Foundation's creation will contain both EPL and
> non-EPL contribution information. So the answer to both questions with
> respect to GMT is yes, and yes.
>
> Thanks,
> Janet
>
> Janet Campbell
> Phone: +1.613.224.9461, x.229 (GMT -5)
> Fax: +1.613.224.5172
> janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Gronback [mailto:richard.gronback@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:07 AM
> To: Janet Campbell; Ed Merks; 'Jean Bezivin'
> Cc: 'Anne Jacko'; gmt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx; jbezivin@xxxxxxxxx; 'PMC members
>
> mailing list'; 'Nick Boldt'
> Subject: Re: GMT code has not moved into Modeling
>
> So you have populated IPZilla with all contribution information that was
> submitted prior to IPZilla's existence? If so, this means everything that
> was contributed to GMT since its creation and which falls under the IP
> review policy is suspect and should be removed until it has been properly
> reviewed, right?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
>
> On 2/1/08 9:32 AM, "Janet Campbell" <janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Ed,
> >
> > Based on our IPZilla records, it appears the only thing that has been
> > approved for GMT is the initial EPL contribution.
> >
> > Janet
> >
> > Janet Campbell
> > Phone: +1.613.224.9461, x.229 (GMT -5)
> > Fax: +1.613.224.5172
> > janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Merks [mailto:merks@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:17 AM
> > To: Jean Bezivin; Janet Campbell
> > Cc: Anne Jacko; gmt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx; jbezivin@xxxxxxxxx; PMC members
> mailing
> > list; Richard Gronback; Nick Boldt
> > Subject: Re: GMT code has not moved into Modeling
> >
> > Jean,
> >
> > It might be good as part of the migration if folks organize their
> > components such that Nick's build infrastructure can be used for it; see
> > that section in
> > http://wiki.eclipse.org/Modeling_Project_Releng/Component_Creation. This
> > would give Nick more oversight into what's going into those components in
> > terms of their third party libraries and such and will help create a more
> > uniform publishing infrastructure for the users who need to mix and match
> > their modeling components...
> >
> > I understand that Janet has pressing concerns about some of the third
> party
> > code currently in CVS and will likely need to take action sooner rather
> > than later to disable the modules that contain the problematic libraries.
> > It's kind of drastic but Eclipse's IP processes aren't something to which
> > we can pay heed only on a best effort basis. Perhaps if Janet's team took
> > the step of deleting the specific files or folders with the problematic
> > content, it will leave the module in a state that will not block
> migration.
> >
> > Janet,
> >
> > It would be good if we had a complete list, with specific pointers into
> > CVS, of all the problematic content which is in GMT's repository today.
> > This will help us identify the things that need immediate action as
> opposed
> > to the things that can be reasonably done on a best effort basis...
> >
> >
> > Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
> > mailto: merks@xxxxxxxxxx
> > 905-413-3265 (t/l 313)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jean Bezivin"
> > <Jean.Bezivin@uni
> > v-nantes.fr> To
> > Sent by: "Anne Jacko" <emo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > jbezivin@xxxxxxxx cc
> > m "PMC members mailing list"
> > <modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Janet
> > Campbell"
> > 02/01/2008 01:04 <janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > AM gmt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx, Ed
> > Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA, "Richard
> > Gronback"
> > <richard.gronback@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject
> > Re: GMT code has not moved into
> > Modeling
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Anne and Janet,
> >
> > There are many pending issues that should be solved for GMT
> > like:
> > - non active components
> > - multi-purpose components
> > - isolated component (i.e. components that are not using other
> > modeling components)
> > - remaining uncleared code
> > - technology to modeling migration
> > - etc.
> >
> > The reason for this situation is the long history of this project
> > that started under technology and that focused on research contributions.
> >
> > Now we are moving to align GMT to other modeling projects
> > but this takes a lot of time, much more than initially planned.
> > To this purpose we have made the following moves :
> > - putting pressure for a completely cleared code
> > - discussing with the component owners that have "multi purpose
> > components" so that they define a clear goal for their component (e.g.
> > oAW and Epsilon); For oAW there seems to be a solution because they
> > have expressed the intention to move to other modeling projects. For
> > Epsilon we still have the complete problem.
> > - discussing with the components that do not seem to attract any user
> > traffic (e.g. VIATRA) and see with them what actions to take (one
> > extreme action is archiving)
> >
> > In view of this situation it has not been possible since some time to
> > accept new components in GMT. Proposals are still waiting in the queue.
> >
> > The plan is to take decisions about all these pending problems at the
> > coming Eclipsecon conference in Santa Clara. Between now and Eclipsecon,
> > the discussion will go on to clarify the situation.
> >
> > The decision will propose a roadmap to reorganize GMT.
> > This reorganization will keep only acceptable components
> > and will define a strict calendar for the micration from technology to
> > modeling.
> > Needless to say that this action should only migrate IP cleared code.
> >
> > This is the best we can do for the time being,
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Jean
> >
> >
> > On Feb 1, 2008 3:31 AM, Anne Jacko <emo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Hello Jean,
> >>
> >> We have noticed that the GMT code is still in /cvsroot/technology. Is
> >> there some reason why you have not yet moved it into /cvsroot/
> >> modeling? This should have happened back in April 2006 when the
> >> Modeling top-level project was created and GMT moved from Technology
> >> to Modeling.
> >>
> >> Please let me know your plans to accomplish this. We need you to have
> >> this finished by March 1, 2008. Please let me know if you have any
> >> questions. Thanks.
> >>
> >> Anne Jacko
> >> emo@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
>
>
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rue de la Houssinière
44322 Nantes cedex 3 - France
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- e.mail: Jean.Bezivin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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