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[modeling-pmc] RE: GMT code has not moved into Modeling


Anything that isn't part of that initial contribution or that hasn't been
developed by Committers under the supervision of the PMC needs to be
deleted.  Code from unknown origins presents a risk to our customers and so
we should keep our standard as high as possible.  Once it is done, the
modeling team will need to let us know their confidence level that they have
been able to get everything.  Together, we can go from there.    

Janet Campbell
Phone:  +1.613.224.9461, x.229 (GMT -5)
Fax:  +1.613.224.5172

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Merks [mailto:merks@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:01 AM
To: Janet Campbell
Cc: 'Anne Jacko'; gmt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx; jbezivin@xxxxxxxxx; 'Jean Bezivin';
'PMC members mailing list'; Nick Boldt; 'Richard Gronback'
Subject: RE: GMT code has not moved into Modeling


So are we to conclude from this?   I assume that what's been developed by
committers themselves over the past few years is fine and that its
primarily third party content that concerns you.   Is there nothing more
specific that requires immediate action?  You are okay with best effort
basis on the whole shebang?

Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
mailto: merks@xxxxxxxxxx
905-413-3265  (t/l 313)

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                                       RE: GMT code has not moved into 


Based on our IPZilla records, it appears the only thing that has been
approved for GMT is the initial EPL contribution.


Janet Campbell
Phone:  +1.613.224.9461, x.229 (GMT -5)
Fax:  +1.613.224.5172

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Merks [mailto:merks@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:17 AM
To: Jean Bezivin; Janet Campbell
Cc: Anne Jacko; gmt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx; jbezivin@xxxxxxxxx; PMC members
list; Richard Gronback; Nick Boldt
Subject: Re: GMT code has not moved into Modeling


It might be good as part of the migration if folks organize their
components such that Nick's build infrastructure can be used for it; see
that section in  This
would give Nick more oversight into what's going into those components in
terms of their third party libraries and such and will help create a more
uniform publishing infrastructure for the users who need to mix and match
their modeling components...

I understand that Janet has pressing concerns about some of the third party
code currently in CVS and will likely need to take action sooner rather
than later to disable the modules that contain the problematic libraries.
It's kind of drastic but Eclipse's IP processes aren't something to which
we can pay heed only on a best effort basis.  Perhaps if Janet's team took
the step of deleting the specific files or folders with the problematic
content, it will leave the module in a state that will not block migration.


It would be good if we had a complete list, with specific pointers into
CVS, of all the problematic content which is in GMT's repository today.
This will help us identify the things that need immediate action as opposed
to the things that can be reasonably done on a best effort basis...

Ed Merks/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
mailto: merks@xxxxxxxxxx
905-413-3265  (t/l 313)

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                                       Re: GMT code has not moved into

Anne and Janet,

There are many pending issues that should be solved for GMT
- non active components
- multi-purpose components
- isolated component (i.e. components that are not using other
modeling components)
- remaining uncleared code
- technology to modeling migration
- etc.

The reason for this situation is the long history of this project
that started under technology and that focused on research contributions.

Now we are moving to align GMT to other modeling projects
but this takes a lot of time, much more than initially planned.
To this purpose we have made the following moves :
- putting pressure for a completely cleared code
- discussing with the component owners that have "multi purpose
components" so that they define a clear goal for their component (e.g.
oAW and Epsilon); For oAW there seems to be a solution because they
have expressed the intention to move to other modeling projects. For
Epsilon we still have the complete problem.
- discussing with the components that do not seem to attract any user
traffic (e.g. VIATRA) and see with them what actions to take (one
extreme action is archiving)

In view of this situation it has not been possible since some time to
accept new components in GMT. Proposals are still waiting in the queue.

The plan is to take  decisions about all these pending problems at the
coming Eclipsecon conference in Santa Clara. Between now and Eclipsecon,
the discussion will go on to clarify the situation.

The decision will propose a roadmap to reorganize GMT.
This reorganization will keep only acceptable components
and will define a strict calendar for the micration from technology to
Needless to say that this action should only migrate IP cleared code.

This is the best we can do for the time being,

Best regards,


On Feb 1, 2008 3:31 AM, Anne Jacko <emo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello Jean,
> We have noticed that the GMT code is still in /cvsroot/technology. Is
> there some reason why you have not yet moved it into /cvsroot/
> modeling? This should have happened back in April 2006 when the
> Modeling top-level project was created and GMT moved from Technology
> to Modeling.
> Please let me know your plans to accomplish this. We need you to have
> this finished by March 1, 2008.  Please let me know if you have any
> questions. Thanks.
> Anne Jacko
> emo@xxxxxxxxxxx

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