Thanks for feedback, Steve (and Ondro).
To all, the last Technical Meeting call discussed this topic as well (meeting minutes, recording [not in YouTube yet]).
As for the straw poll thread, I’ll be starting that shortly.
Is the namespace topic a “red line"? In other words, if the preferred namespace is not agreed upon, the upcoming MicroProfile->Jakarta ballot resolution vote would be -1
The upcoming straw poll verbiage will likely be (+1, -1, 0):
"If MicroProfile is to join Jakarta EE, keep the org.eclipse.microprofile namespace for existing specifications.” On May 8, 2025, at 2:03 AM, Steve Millidge (Payara) via microprofile-wg <microprofile-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Here are my preferences.
2) Change the namespace to jakarta.*
3) Change the namespace to jakarta.microprofile.*
1) Keep org.eclipse.microprofile
Change the namespace at the next Major release of MicroProfile under Jakarta.
--
Steve Millidge
Founder & CEO
From: microprofile-wg <microprofile-wg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Takahiro Nagao (Fujitsu) via microprofile-wg
Sent: 08 May 2025 09:27
To: 'Microprofile WG discussions' <microprofile-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Takahiro Nagao (Fujitsu) <nagao.takahiro@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [microprofile-wg] DISCUSSION: MicroProfile->Jakarta EE Proposal - namespace
From Fujitsu's perspective, we welcome migration to Jakarta including the namespace. This is our preference in order:
2) Change the namespace to jakarta.*
3) Change the namespace to jakarta.microprofile.*
1) Keep org.eclipse.microprofile
We'd like to support a direction that benefits users from a long-term perspective.
If the namespace is kept without change, it will benefit MicroProfile users in the short term,
but the inconsistency of the branding and namespace will cause confusion among Jakarta community in the long term.
We're concerned that such confusion brings the same discussion again in a few years.
-- Takahiro Nagao (Fujitsu)
From: microprofile-wg <microprofile-wg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of John Clingan via microprofile-wg
Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2025 4:14 AM
To: Microprofile WG discussions <microprofile-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: John Clingan <jclingan@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [microprofile-wg] DISCUSSION: MicroProfile->Jakarta EE Proposal - namespace
At this week's Live Hangout, we continued to discuss the MicroProfile->Jakarta EE Proposal. To keep the eventual resolution "simple", the idea is to come to agreement "out of band" and "ahead of time", where possible. That way, we have a better idea of what the resolution encapsulates. We are going to discuss these items on the microprofile-wg email alias, followed by non-binding straw polls. These are areas where we currently do not have agreement. Many of the MicroProfile Working Group members are also Jakarta EE Working Group members. Not all Jakarta EE Working Group members are MicroProfile Working Group Members, but I'd like to encourage them to participate in this discussion.
The first topic is the MicroProfile namespace for existing MicroProfile specifications, which is currently org.eclipse.microprofile. This is arguably the most impactful discussion because it could result in a breaking change for developers and our customers. The question is whether or not this namespace remains if the MicroProfile->Jakarta EE resolution passes. I have seen a few options discussed so far:
1) Keep org.eclipse.microprofile
2) Change the namespace to jakarta.*
3) Change the namespace to jakarta.microprofile.*
I'd like to give a couple days of open discussion before opening up a separate straw poll email thread. Please respond to this thread discussing benefits and concerns.
Thanks!
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