Re: [microprofile-wg] Proposal: Host MicroProfile in Jakarta EE

[Josh Juneau <juneau001@xxxxxxxxx>]

+1 to unifying the groups.  Great discussion!

Thanks for all of your work!

Josh Juneau

On Mar 20, 2025, at 6:49 PM, Kenji Kazumura (Fujitsu) via microprofile-wg <microprofile-wg@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



As I mentioned the steering committee meeting, I support +1 to unify the two working groups.

For namespaces, now is the time to change to "jakarta. *" as Steve suggested.

Now you can have much less impact than when you changed javax to jakarta.

Because today, far fewer people use org.microproile than javax.

 

-Kenji Kazumura

 

From: microprofile-wg <microprofile-wg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Steve Millidge (Payara) via microprofile-wg
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Subject: Re: [microprofile-wg] Proposal: Host MicroProfile in Jakarta EE

 

I agree +1 with MicroProfile moving to the Jakarta EE working group with some caveats.

 

First – I think aligned with the Jakarta EE 12 timeline and a major release of Microprofile that the apis should move to the Jakarta namespace. MicroProfile is more open to breaking changes and this will be a one off breaking change. Why – because it is simpler and if you look ahead 5 years from now if we keep the old namespace nobody coming to Jakarta EE new would understand why we have multiple namespaces in Jakarta.

 

Second – overall governance should be under the usual Jakarta EE governance processes to make life simpler. I agree that MicroProfile should be it’s own Profile Spec within Jakarta and therefore can have its own Profile project, release cadence and selection of specs it wants in the profile.

 

Third – I think innovating in specs can occur in Jakarta EE WG as a whole and doesn’t require a MicroProfile badge. The adoption of a spec into a profile (whether Micro, Web or Full) can signify maturity. After all MicroProfile AI actually has nothing to do with “Microservices” per se and is widely applicable to Full Profile apps.

 

A lot of what is proposed is aligned with a blog I put out 5 years ago MicroProfile and Jakarta EE Technical Alignment

 

Thanks

--

Steve Millidge
Founder & CEO

 

From: microprofile-wg <microprofile-wg-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of John Clingan via microprofile-wg
Sent: 19 March 2025 20:38
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Subject: [microprofile-wg] Proposal: Host MicroProfile in Jakarta EE

 

At yesterday's MicroProfile Steering Committee call, John and Emily presented "Proposal: Host MicroProfile in Jakarta EE". Before replying to this post, please review the meeting minutes to see what has been discussed. Please use this thread to continue the discussion. The proposal is at a high level, and some details would need to be worked out if this proposal moves forward.

However, for the proposal to move forward, we would need to have a vote.  We are not there yet because the details matter.

Let's discuss the details in this thread, which is dual-posted to the Google Group and the MicroProfile Working Group email alias.

For those that attended the meeting, please review the minutes for accuracy.

Thanks!

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