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Re: [microprofile-wg] MPWG_SCR Final update. Approval of April 27th Steering Committee Meeting Minutes. Request vote by May 17th
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  • Thread-topic: [microprofile-wg] MPWG_SCR Final update. Approval of April 27th Steering Committee Meeting Minutes. Request vote by May 17th

+1 (Fujitsu)


-Kenji Kazumura



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Subject: [microprofile-wg] MPWG_SCR Final update. Approval of April 27th Steering Committee Meeting Minutes. Request vote by May 17th



OK, hoping this is the final revision for ballot. Please vote by May 17th


MicroProfile Steering Committee Meeting - April 27th, 2021



  1. DO NOT EDIT AGENDA. This is the responsibility
  2. of the meeting moderator with input from the steering committee and community. Agenda items should be discussed in the mailing list/forum or in prior Steering Committee meetings first.
  1. Prefer comments occur in mailing lists/forums.
  1. Document editing is enabled for community
  2. to add themselves to list of community contributors during call


Tweeted pic here, recording here, meeting minutes folder here


Meeting Attendees

Steering Committee

(Quorum = 6)


(Name, organization)

Atlanta JUG - Summers Pittman, Vincent Mayers

Fujitsu - Kenji Kazamura

IBM - Kevin Sutter, Emily Jiang

iJUG - 

Jelastic - Ruslan Synytsky, Tetiana Fydorenchyk

Garden State JUG - Chandra Guntur, Michael Redlich

Oracle - Ed Bratt, Dmitry Kornilov

Payara - Rudy De Busscher

Red Hat - John Clingan, Roberto Cortez

Tomitribe - David Blevins, Amelia Eiras

Committer Member: Edwin Derks


Eclipse Foundation

Paul Buck 

Sharon Corbett

Ivar Grimstad

Tanja Obradovic



Agenda Item


Past meeting minutes approval

Business since last Steering Committee Meeting

Current Items

MicroProfile Patent Options Discussion

Meeting consumed all 60 minutes of Live Hangout time slot.

  • Presentation.
  • EMO presented on Patent Policy options since the MicroProfile Working Group needs to select an option.The two options are “Implementation Patent” or “Compatible Implementation Patent”.
  • Discussion
    • Compatible Implementation Policy - protects
    • against fragmentation and patents become a legal enforcement approach to compatibility.  The Spark Plug community discussed this being a barrier to adoption. 
    • Patent license - implementations that
    • do not have to 100% pass the TCK. This approach favors adoption over compliance.Whether or not an implementation is compatible becomes a legal question.
    • Only one patent license policy applies
    • per spec project. MicroProfile specifications are managed under a single project. Theoretically, if MicroProfile split specs into separate projects, each project could choose its patent policy with approval by the Steering Committee.
    • Is there a 3rd option - Collective Defense?
    • Currently not an option.
    • Paul noted that Jakarta EE working group
    • chose the compatible implementation license and that the Spark Plug working group is in discussion on IP patent policy. 
    • Paul recommended a straw poll vote to
    • understand where we stand as a working group on the two patent options. We agreed to give it two weeks. This would be followed up by a formal vote on one of the two (draft) resolutions outlined in the presentation.
    • The first 15 minutes discussed whether
    • or not the meeting should be recorded based on an objection. It was pointed out that any member of the Steering Committee can request that a meeting not be recorded. The meeting was not recorded
    • The EMO presenters did not consent to recording the agenda topic. This was communicated to the chair as the call
    • was getting underway.
    • We agreed that Steering Committee members
    • must be notified of non-recorded meetings ahead of time.

Next Steering Committee call

Parking Lot


Compatibility Certification Request Format


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