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Re: HA: [mdt-ocl.dev] Compatibility Support
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Hi
Great, I think we are agreed. 1.4.x is an enhanced maintenance release 
for Helios. Since we
will be maintaining 1.3.0, 1.3.1, 1.3.2 in parallel with 2.0.0, 
supporting 1.4.0 can't be that different.
Perhaps 1.4.0 gets no further maintenance release to avoid a 1.4.1, 
2.0.1 and 2.1.0; not today's
problem anyway.
One minor problem; API tooling.
Because UML2 went from 2.x to 3.x for Galileo, the MDT-OCL UML plugin 
had to go from 1.x to 2.x,
so 1.3.x and every subsequent release has a mismatch of MDT-OCL numbers; 
2.0.0 will have a 3.0.0
for UML. Do we want to skip 2.0.0 and go straight to 3.0.0 (any of my 
earlier comments for 3.0.0
features should then be interpreted as 4.0.0)? This has an advantage in 
avoiding any confusion
that MDT OCL 1.x is OCL 1.x and MDT-OCL 2.0.0 is OCL 2.x.
If EMF or UML2 or ... has a major API change in Helios, then we cannot 
go to 1.4.0 for a maintenance
release while complying with API tooling policy. If this happens, I 
think we perform API testing in so far as
possible ignoring only the major increment. i.e. in our workspace we 
temporarily name the 1.4.0
plugins as 2.0.0 check the API compliance, then restore the name to 
1.4.0 and distribute with a
major version API exclusion  filter.
   Regards
      Ed Willink
Alexander Igdalov wrote:
Hi Adolfo and Ed,
 
Adolfo, I agree with your description of MDT OCL 1.4.0 and 2.0.0.
I also hope it is possible to practically implement this idea. 
Different versions of several plugins peacefully co-exist in Galileo, 
e.g. javax.wsdl 1.5.1 and 1.6.2. There are projects which depend on 
the earlier version of the plugin while others depend on the newer.
 
Best,
Aelx.
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*From:* mdt-ocl.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:mdt-ocl.dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Adolfo 
Sanchez-Barbudo Herrera
*Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2009 5:36 PM
*To:* MDT OCL mailing list
*Subject:* Re: HA: [mdt-ocl.dev] Compatibility Support
Hi Ed,
As far as I have understood 1.4.0 is intended to be shipped in Helios 
as a version of the current status of MDT-OCL as a (probably 
incorrect, incomplete, etc) implementation of the OCL 2.0 
specification. The efforts needed could be updating dependencies and 
solving any issue arisen from changes in the dependent projects (EMF, 
UML, ...). Therefore, any actual MDT-OCL client could perfectly fit in 
Helios release, without any backward compatibility problem.
If clients want to align with the OCL 2.2 specification and/or take 
advantage of any new feature or enhancement introduced in Helios, they 
will have to move on the MDT-OCL 2.0.0. We will be mainly focused on 
this release....
Again, I have some doubts about if this, which seems to be 
conceptually sensible, can be done in the practice.... which would 
need some help from a releng expert (yeah, Nick could add a valuable 
point of view).
Cheers,
Adolfo.
Ed Willink escribió:
When I wrote:
If the sole purpose of 1.4.0 is to provide a slightly more 
confidence inspiring name than 1.3.3 for Helios then I have no 
problem with someone doing that. I just don't have time to 
contribute to any problems that arise as a result. If the intention 
is to offer more than maintenance functionality in 3.3 please 
elaborate.
I think we should proceed with OCL 2.2 as far as we can understand 
it on MDT-OCL 2.0.0 and address any real compatibility issues as 
they arise.
I was trying to find out what option A means. I would still like to 
know what is planned for inclusion in 1.4.0, for which I provided my 
best guess above. (Alex's original proposal discussed the 
practicalities of A/B but did not discuss content.)
In the above I was sort of suggesting that perhaps we do both A and B 
since there may not really be very much difference.
Moving to a vote is not very helpful, because I certainly do not 
understand what we are actually voting on. We will only have another 
discussion later on as to what the result of the vote meant.
   Regards
      Ed Willink
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