[jwt-dev] Telco meeting notes 200721031

[Marc Dutoo <marc.dutoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi all

Please find below my notes about last week's telco meeting.

Alain, you're welcome to give feedback or a few more updates on the "JWT 
for SOA" vision.

I'll send details about Open Wide's planned task shortly.


---++ Attending members
   * Florian (Augsburg)
   * Marc (Open Wide)
   * Stephane Drapeau and Etienne Juliot (Obeo)
   * Miguel Valdes (Bull)
   * NB. Alain couldn't be there but will send feedback


---++ Information about JWT topics each of us has been involved with :

---+++ Eclipse Summit Europe
   * 120-150 poeople in the room, most were interested
   * 25 minutes
   * then many questions about code generation, metamodel, STP-IM
   * looking forward to test it out
   * 3-4 would like to join the project
   * TODO build on this basis !

---+++ SCOrWare Developments Plan and Start
SCOrWare meeting mid october, where was decided what is going to be done.

What will be done in the next three months :
   * BPM designer
      * to have a BP (representation) analyst-oriented editor, to 
support more BP format / languages
      * Obeo does JWT <-> BPMN with Open Wide (and Augsburg) support
         * Open Wide is preparing working JWT processes along with 
their STP BPMN EMF mapping
         * Florian has and sends an updated BPMN - JWT mapping doc
      * Open Wide and / or Obeo does JWT -> XPDL / Bonita using Obeo 
expertise on transfo and Open Wide expertise on runtime
   * service semantic orchestration
      * Open Wide does simple browsing interface in JWT for semantic 
SCA trading service
   * generic (SCA) service and process matching
      * Open Wide does JWT / SCA runtime integration. Target workflow 
runtime is Bonita 3. See upcoming costing info. Miguel (Bull) proposes 
support.

---+++ PVM Updates
   * mid august meeting : Miguel, Goulven Le Jeune, Marc
   * Miguel still interested, no resource right now
   * see below for offered help for Bonita - JWT / SCOrWare integration

---+++ STP-IM News
   * STP-IM is a metamodel that is a tool for helping bridge STP 
projects (editors like BPMN, runtime like BPEL2Java)
   * created by Adrian Moss at the start of July for answering 
discussed SCOrWare needs on the basis of ideas similar to the "pivotal 
metamodel" but with an initial orientation targeting rather SCA - JBI 
mapping
   * very interesting and to the point for JWT, Marc still has 
questions on the execution, which will require strong collaboration 
between integrated projects
   * JWT <-> STP-IM to be pushed forward, still what it will be used 
for (ex. intermediate transfo for Obeo's planned BPMN -> BPEL) has to be 
specified. With our own forthcoming expertise in model transformation, 
we will have these answers and will be able to make an impact on/with 
STP-IM.

---+++ What we've been doing
...

---+++ Milestones on JWT level
   * Question from Florian : what has do be done before a release in 
eclipse ? TODO find answer (emo)
   * Planned commit in mid-november
   * TODO release in the upcoming months to capitalize on eclipse 
summit etc.


---++ Ideas and plans, in order to ensure we stay in sync on a higher 
level :

---+++ Vision, notably JWT for SOA
See the Eclipse Summit slides.

Marc says the "JWT for SOA" vision is a more "marketable" one for the 
planned SCOrWare integration, which is a good opportunity to open doors 
between JWT and not only the SCA level but with the global SOA level as 
well. Marc explains Alain made an interesting market analysis in the 
context of the partner SCOrWare project.

TODO Alain more about this

---+++ Technologies
   * AgilPro :
      * WAM : end of the year, linked to BPEL generation
   * Bonita
      * integration Petals ESB - Bonita done by Open Wide
      * Miguel gives the piece of advice that Open Wide can integrate 
SCA and the existing Bonita 3, and offers help to migrate to the 
upcoming Bonita 4 ; NB. Bonita XPDL will stay the same, but APIs will change
   * transformation : done using Acceleo (code generation) or ATL 
(model transformation), Obeo will choose
   * GMF : won't be used for now, no new diagram editor planned at this 
time
   * BPDM : Etienne (Obeo) proposes to choose it as the / a new 
metamodel for JWT. Florian says another year would be needed to redo the 
JWT Editor, and BPDM is complex : many concepts mainly not used but that 
have to be handled nonetheless, BPDM standard specs are 300-400 pages)
   * Obeo plans to do BPMN -> BPEL (STP runtime) transformation


---++ A list of actions to take will be a suitable final thing to do.
   * Marc to send these notes
   * Marc to send task costs
   * our complement to specs for Obeo, discuss it together BPMN JWT
   * Florian how to start JWT on the wiki, from svn or from sourceforge
   * Florian to send paper about BPEL generation to Stéphane (Obeo)
   * TODO question Florian which persons from the eclipse summit want 
to join the project ? from the industry ?
   * possible IRL meeting : 15 déc javapolis ?? Miguel goes there


Regards
Marc Dutoo
Open Wide