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Re: [jetty-users] [jetty-dev] Jetty 9.2.3.v20140905 / 8.1.16.v20140903 / 7.6.16.v20140903 Released!

ok, will try that. ( I got the jstl jars from http://www.eclipse.org/jetty/documentation/9.2.3.v20140905/framework-jetty-osgi.html#d0e20515 ).

As a comparison, using my current setup, replacing org.mortbay.apache-jsp and org.eclipse.jetty.apache-jsp with jetty-jsp-fragment, jetty-schema and javax.servlet.jsp-api works fine for me ( http://pastebin.com/CdDgGikh ).

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Jan Bartel <janb@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Low,

You don't have the exact glassfish jstl jars deployed. From my earlier
email to you, the ones you should use are:
org.eclipse.jetty.orbit:javax.servlet.jsp.jstl:1.2.0.v201105211821
org.glassfish.web:javax.servlet.jsp.jstl:1.2.2

Try using those - you wil find them in maven central.

Jan

On 11 September 2014 15:09, Heng Sin Low <hengsin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Jan,
>
> Same exception with the grassfish jstl bundle - http://pastebin.com/eaAZJ4RL
>
> Regards,
> Low
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Heng Sin Low <hengsin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>> You are right, it doesn't resolve against the standard jetty and equinox
>> bundle list. Don't notice some of the import resolve against the export from
>> my application's bundle ( org.apache.xml.dtm, org.apache.xml.utils,
>> org.apache.xpath and org.apache.xpath.objects. the export comes from an
>> embedded xalan-2.7.1.jar ). Will test whether it will works better using the
>> grassfish jstl jar instead ( was trying to use what's recommended by the
>> 9.2.3 distribution ).
>>
>> Regards,
>> Low
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Jan Bartel <janb@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Low,
>>>
>>> How did you get org.apache.taglibs.taglibs-standard-impl-1.2.1.jar to
>>> resolve? It does not resolve for me.
>>>
>>> Can you do a console "bundle" and "diag" commands on it for me to see
>>> how you're osgi container has resolved it?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Jan
>>>
>>> On 11 September 2014 13:17, Jan Bartel <janb@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > Low,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 11 September 2014 12:22, Heng Sin Low <hengsin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >> Hi Jan,
>>> >>
>>> >> Here it goes - http://pastebin.com/PMbP2z9n
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for that, looking at your deployed bundle list and will get
>>> > back to you on that.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Also, since the jetty jsp fragment 2.3.3 is working fine for me, does
>>> >> I miss
>>> >> anything if I stick with that instead ?
>>> >
>>> > You don't need it if you are using the apache jsp jars, and it may in
>>> > fact be detrimental - its only there because some of the glassfish
>>> > jars lack a correct manifest.
>>> >
>>> >> Just notice that there is setting of boot delegation and system
>>> >> packages in
>>> >> the jetty osgi unit testing code ( wasn't mention in the osgi doc ) ,
>>> >> is
>>> >> that a must to get the whole thing working  ?
>>> >
>>> > I don't think I added anything to the default delegation and system
>>> > packages for apache jsp - whatever you had for glassfish jsp should be
>>> > sufficient. However, if you're trying to use the apache jstl jars,
>>> > they may require something extra, I won't know until I try to use them
>>> > myself.
>>> >
>>> > Jan
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Low
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Jan Bartel <janb@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi Heng,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> How about you post the output of a console "status" command from
>>> >>> eclipse so I can see which bundles you have deployed and their
>>> >>> resolution status?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 11 September 2014 11:01, Heng Sin Low <hengsin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>> ...
>>> >>> > 1. The jstl related jar listed in the osgi documentation is
>>> >>> > different
>>> >>> > from
>>> >>> > what is being use in the 9.2.3 distribution. Is that because that's
>>> >>> > the
>>> >>> > only
>>> >>> > combination that will work for the OSGi environment ?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Ah. The names of the jstl jars look a bit mangled in the
>>> >>> documentation. Darn. I'll have to fix that up. They should be:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> org.eclipse.jetty.orbit:javax.servlet.jsp.jstl:1.2.0.v201105211821
>>> >>> org.glassfish.web:javax.servlet.jsp.jstl:1.2.2
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Note that these are the glassfish jstl jars. I haven't tested against
>>> >>> the apache jstl jars yet - I'll take a look at their manifests and
>>> >>> see
>>> >>> if they are compatible.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > 2. I've been testing this against the equinox 3.10 ( eclipse luna )
>>> >>> > environment. Perhaps that's not a supported environment yet ?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Its been tested on kepler and luna.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > Regarding the updated doc, I think one missing piece of information
>>> >>> > is
>>> >>> > which
>>> >>> > bundle needs to be set as auto start.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm deploying this using the pax unit test environment for osgi and
>>> >>> the default there seems to be to start all bundles that aren't
>>> >>> fragments. Which bundle are you needing to set autostart on??
>>> >>>
>>> >>> thanks
>>> >>> Jan
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Thanks.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Regards,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Low
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Jan Bartel <janb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> > wrote:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Hi Low,
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> The doco is now updated and online:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> https://www.eclipse.org/jetty/documentation/9.2.3.v20140905/index.html
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> cheers
>>> >>> >> Jan
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> On 10 September 2014 17:53, Jan Bartel <janb@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>> >> > Hi Low,
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > Actually, I'm working on it as we speak.
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > If you take a look in the jetty sources at the
>>> >>> >> > TestJettyOSGiBootWithAnnotations class (and also the superclass
>>> >>> >> > TestJettyOSGiBootCore), it will help get you started as to which
>>> >>> >> > jars
>>> >>> >> > you need to deploy. Here's a link to the src:
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > https://github.com/eclipse/jetty.project/blob/master/jetty-osgi/test-jetty-osgi/src/test/java/org/eclipse/jetty/osgi/test/TestJettyOSGiBootWithAnnotations.java
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > In addition to the standard jetty jars, for apache-jsp use:
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > org.mortbay.jasper:apache-el:8.0.9.M3
>>> >>> >> > org.mortbay.jasper:apache-jsp:8.0.9.M3
>>> >>> >> > org.eclipse.jetty:apache-jsp:9.2.3
>>> >>> >> > the usual jstl api jar
>>> >>> >> > the usual jstl impl jar
>>> >>> >> > the usual jdt jar
>>> >>> >> > you'll need all of the recommended jars for annotations as per
>>> >>> >> > the
>>> >>> >> > current documentation
>>> >>> >> > take out any jetty-schema jar you have and replace it with the
>>> >>> >> > org.eclipse.jetty.toolchain:jetty-osgi-servlet-api:3.1.M0
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > Hopefully this will point you in the right direction.
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > I should have the doc updated shortly and pushed up to the
>>> >>> >> > documentation page. I'll let you know.
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > Jan
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > On 10 September 2014 17:12, Heng Sin Low <hengsin@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> >> > wrote:
>>> >>> >> >> Hi Jan,
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> I can only find the setup documentation (
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> http://www.eclipse.org/jetty/documentation/current/framework-jetty-osgi.html
>>> >>> >> >> ) for the grassfish jsp engine. Where can I find the
>>> >>> >> >> documentation
>>> >>> >> >> for
>>> >>> >> >> the
>>> >>> >> >> setup of the apache jsp engine for 9.2.3 ? The
>>> >>> >> >> jetty-jsp-fragment is
>>> >>> >> >> always
>>> >>> >> >> working for me but I couldn't get the apache jsp engine up and
>>> >>> >> >> running
>>> >>> >> >> and
>>> >>> >> >> without any documentation, it is always a struggle to know
>>> >>> >> >> whether
>>> >>> >> >> I've
>>> >>> >> >> miss
>>> >>> >> >> anything.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> Regards,
>>> >>> >> >> Low
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Jan Bartel <janb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>> >> >>> And for OSGi users out there, please note that with 9.2.3 we
>>> >>> >> >>> swapped
>>> >>> >> >>> over to using apache jsp (jasper 8.0.9), the same as we use
>>> >>> >> >>> for the
>>> >>> >> >>> distribution.
>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>> >> >>> cheers
>>> >>> >> >>> Jan
>>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>> >> >>> On 10 September 2014 02:50, Jesse McConnell
>>> >>> >> >>> <jesse.mcconnell@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> >> >>> wrote:
>>> >>> >> >>> > We are pleased to announce the availability of Jetty 9.2.3,
>>> >>> >> >>> > Jetty
>>> >>> >> >>> > 8.1.16 and Jetty 7.6.16!
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > The Jetty 9 release is a standard point release with 25
>>> >>> >> >>> > total
>>> >>> >> >>> > issues
>>> >>> >> >>> > resolved.  The Jetty 7 and Jetty 8 releases continue to be
>>> >>> >> >>> > released
>>> >>> >> >>> > in
>>> >>> >> >>> > lockstep with 3 and 7 issues resolved respectively.
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > We encourage everyone using Jetty 9.2.2 to update when they
>>> >>> >> >>> > get
>>> >>> >> >>> > the
>>> >>> >> >>> > chance.  Additionally we encourage anyone using Jetty 7 and
>>> >>> >> >>> > 8 to
>>> >>> >> >>> > update as well, ideally to Jetty 9.  We have been clear for
>>> >>> >> >>> > some
>>> >>> >> >>> > time
>>> >>> >> >>> > now that public support for Jetty 7 and 8 will dry up on the
>>> >>> >> >>> > mailing
>>> >>> >> >>> > lists over time and our current plans are to cease
>>> >>> >> >>> > maintenance
>>> >>> >> >>> > releases for anything outside of a security vulnerability
>>> >>> >> >>> > for
>>> >>> >> >>> > Jetty
>>> >>> >> >>> > 7
>>> >>> >> >>> > and 8 entirely at years end.
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > If you haven't already, now is the time to plan your
>>> >>> >> >>> > migration to
>>> >>> >> >>> > Jetty
>>> >>> >> >>> > 9.
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > The issues resolved are listed below.
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > Distribution Downloads:
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > - http://download.eclipse.org/jetty/
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > The artifacts are also available in the Global Central
>>> >>> >> >>> > Repository.
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > - http://central.maven.org/
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > Eclipse P2 repositories are available as well.
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > If you find an issue with this release you can open a bug
>>> >>> >> >>> > through
>>> >>> >> >>> > the
>>> >>> >> >>> > guided bugzilla page located here:
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > -
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=Jetty&format=guided
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > Documentation can be found at our documentation hub
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > - https://www.eclipse.org/jetty/documentation/
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > Finally, a reminder that both dev and prod support are
>>> >>> >> >>> > offered
>>> >>> >> >>> > through
>>> >>> >> >>> > Webtide
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>>> >>> >> >>> > or
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>>> >>> >> >>> > me directly if you are interested in learning more.
>>> >>> >> >>> > Documentation
>>> >>> >> >>> > PDF's are available for direct download on the webtide.com
>>> >>> >> >>> > website
>>> >>> >> >>> > as
>>> >>> >> >>> > well.
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > cheers,
>>> >>> >> >>> > The Jetty Development Team
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > jetty-9.2.3.v20140905 - 05 September 2014
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 347110 renamed class transformer methods
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 411163 Add embedded jetty code example with JSP enabled
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 435322 Added a idleTimeout to the SharedBlockerCallback
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 435533 Handle 0 sized async gzip
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 435988 ContainerLifeCycle: beans never stopped on remove
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 436862 Update jetty-osgi to asm-5 and spifly-1.0.1
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 438500 Odd NoClassDef errors when shutting down the
>>> >>> >> >>> > jetty-maven-plugin via
>>> >>> >> >>> >    the stop goal
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 440255 ensure 500 is logged on thrown Errors
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 441073 isEarlyEOF on HttpInput
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 441475 org.eclipse.jetty.server.ResourceCache exceptions
>>> >>> >> >>> > under
>>> >>> >> >>> > high
>>> >>> >> >>> > load
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 441479 Jetty hangs due to deadlocks in session manager
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 441649 Update to jsp and el Apache Jasper 8.0.9
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 441756 Ssl Stackoverflow on renegotiate
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 441897 Fixed etag handling in gzipfilter
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 442048 fixed sendRedirect %2F encoding
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 442383 Improved insufficient threads message
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 442628 Update example xml file for second server instance
>>> >>> >> >>> > to
>>> >>> >> >>> > extract
>>> >>> >> >>> > wars
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 442642 Quickstart generates valid XML
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 442759 Allow specific ServletContainerInitializers to be
>>> >>> >> >>> > excluded
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 442950 Embedded Jetty client requests to localhost hangs
>>> >>> >> >>> > with
>>> >>> >> >>> > high
>>> >>> >> >>> > cpu usage
>>> >>> >> >>> >    (NIO OP_CONNECT Solaris/Sparc).
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 443049 Improved HttpParser illegal character messages
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 443158 Fixed HttpOutput spin
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 443172 web-fragment.xml wrongly parsed for applications
>>> >>> >> >>> > running
>>> >>> >> >>> > in
>>> >>> >> >>> > serlvet
>>> >>> >> >>> >    2.4 mode
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 443231 java.lang.NullPointerException on scavenge
>>> >>> >> >>> > scheduling
>>> >>> >> >>> > when
>>> >>> >> >>> > session id
>>> >>> >> >>> >    manager declared before shared scheduler
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 443262 Distinguish situation where jetty looks for tlds
>>> >>> >> >>> > in
>>> >>> >> >>> > META-INF
>>> >>> >> >>> > but
>>> >>> >> >>> >    finds none vs does not look
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > jetty-8.1.16.v20140903 - 03 September 2014
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 409788 Large POST body causes
>>> >>> >> >>> > java.lang.IllegalStateException:
>>> >>> >> >>> > SENDING =>
>>> >>> >> >>> >    HEADERS.
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 433689 Evict idle HttpDestinations from client
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 433802 check EOF in send1xx
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 438996 Scavenger-Timer in HashSessionManager can die
>>> >>> >> >>> > because
>>> >>> >> >>> > of
>>> >>> >> >>> >    IllegalStateException from getMaxInactiveInterval
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 442048 fixed sendRedirect %2F encoding
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 442839 highly fragmented websocket messages can result in
>>> >>> >> >>> > corrupt
>>> >>> >> >>> > binary
>>> >>> >> >>> >    messages
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > jetty-7.6.16.v20140902 - 02 September 2014
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 409788 Large POST body causes
>>> >>> >> >>> > java.lang.IllegalStateException:
>>> >>> >> >>> > SENDING =>
>>> >>> >> >>> >    HEADERS.
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 433802 check EOF in send1xx
>>> >>> >> >>> >  + 442839 highly fragmented websocket messages can result in
>>> >>> >> >>> > corrupt
>>> >>> >> >>> > binary
>>> >>> >> >>> >    messages
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> >
>>> >>> >> >>> > --
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