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Historically, once you exclude a test, the test stays excluded until it is fixed in the next major/release.
So if test was excluded in CTS or standalone TCK for say Java EE 8, it would remain excluded until Java EE 8.1 or Java EE 9.
It would not come off of the exclude list for a patch release to CTS or one of the standalone TCKs.
HTH
We're at 99% passing with the Web Profile TCK, down to 187 failures. We'll definitely have a handful of challenges ourselves, so we'd also support (and could even help create) an 8.0.3.
Timing-wise, though, we'd prefer to spend the next couple weeks focused on 9.1 so we can help validate the optional ORB changes. We could definitely help with an 8.0.3 afterwards. It wouldn't be immediately after as there would be some time
needed to talk through the challenges, but hopefully just a few weeks after. The 9.1 release is likely to be sometime in April, so perhaps that'd make an 8.0.3 sometime in June.
Olivier, would this timeline work for you? What do others think?
Hi Olivier,
Right now, there were no plans for an 8.0.3 release of the TCK. Not saying there couldn't be an 8.0.3 TCK release -- it's just that there were no plans.
In the past, fixes to the Java EE TCK were not automatically backported to previous TCK releases. Since Java EE didn't have the big breaking change like we did with the "jakarta" namespace, it was
more straight forward to just direct users of the Java EE TCK to the newer versions. So, this "javax" to "jakarta" namespace change has definitely introduced a wrinkle into the support statements.
We want and need teams to move forward to the "jakarta" namespace in Jakarta EE 9. That's where our focus is on maintaining and enhancing the TCK bucket. But, we still want to encourage the Jakarta
brand by getting more TCK compatible implementations -- whether it's for Jakarta EE 8, or 9, or 9.1...
So, maybe we should start with that question... What are Webtide's plans on supporting Jakarta EE 9? Is Jakarta EE 8 compatibility an "end game", or do you have plans to move forward to Jakarta
EE 9?
And, the other question is how many changes are you targeting for this backport? We have to weigh the costs of this backporting exercise along with the release process against the costs of making
progress with 9.1 and beyond -- which will help with the long-term livelihood of Jakarta.
This is an excellent discussion point. But, as you can see, there's no easy answer. :-) Thanks for raising the question.
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From: Olivier Lamy <olamy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jakartaee-tck developer discussions <jakartaee-tck-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 03/02/2021 15:58
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [jakartaee-tck-dev] Maintenance Release 8.0.3?
Sent by: "jakartaee-tck-dev" <jakartaee-tck-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Hi
Is there any plan to release a 8.0.3?
with some fixes backport? (I'm interested with this one
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_eclipse-2Dee4j_jakartaee-2Dtck_pull_562&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=R9dtOS3afYnRUmu_zogmh0VnVYl2tse_V7QBUA9yr_4&m=3Vb3-CGoObTzZTnNFtk0F2FwehNBDTUdSoYJEXN0n9M&s=FS9b-MBCGKcjlC0P2GC6RlzHvQBlQ6XIWDn694WzBqY&e= )
and maybe more?
cheers
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Olivier
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