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  • From: Mark Thomas <markt@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 11:42:46 +0000
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On 16/01/2020 22:11, Wayne Beaton wrote:
> I was given authorization yesterday to release the balance of the
> specification documents that we received from Oracle. I'll start this
> shortly. I'll start with Jakarta Server Pages and Jakarta Transactions
> tonight. I figure that Jakarta Servlets is pretty high on folks' list so
> I'll include that one next. I'm hopeful that I'll get them all out by
> EOB tomorrow.

Woot!

This is great news. Thanks.

Mark


> 
> The process that we've established is that I will create a contribution
> questionnaire (CQ) for each specification document. I'll add the project
> leads in CC. When the IP Team grants "checkin", the documents can be
> taken from the CQ attachment and moved into a project repository.
> 
> Thanks for your patience.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 6:03 AM Mark Thomas <markt@xxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:markt@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     On 16/01/2020 10:34, Tom Jenkinson wrote:
>     > Is this still the case for Jakarta Transactions?
>     >
>     https://blogs.eclipse.org/post/tanja-obradovic/jakarta-ee-community-update-january-2020
>     > indicates that the Jakarta Transactions specification is ready to be
>     > converted but I don't think that is the case yet?
> 
>     Same question for JSP. I don't see that doc in the JSP repo.
> 
>     Mark
> 
> 
>     >
>     > On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 11:04, Tom Jenkinson
>     <tom.jenkinson@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tom.jenkinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
>     > <mailto:tom.jenkinson@xxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:tom.jenkinson@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Thanks for the updates!
>     >
>     >     On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 14:54, Wayne Beaton
>     >     <wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >     <mailto:wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >         Hrm... Two spreadsheets, IPzilla, and a GitHub project
>     board...
>     >
>     >         My recommendation is that we make the project board be the
>     >         official means of tracking this.
>     >
>     >         IPzilla is (at least for the foreseeable future) how we
>     interact
>     >         with the IP Team. IPzilla is only used for tracking the
>     >         intellectual property vetting process and is only
>     accessible by
>     >         committers, so it's not a suitable means of tracking the full
>     >         lifecycle. I'll continue to contribute specification documents
>     >         there, but stop sharing it as a means of keeping track of
>     >         overall progress.
>     >
>     >         The spreadsheet that I linked contains some charts that the
>     >         specification committee likes. I'll continue to maintain this,
>     >         at least for now (but will stop pointing people to it in
>     favour
>     >         of the project board). I believe that the "Jakarta EE 9
>     >         Specification Sizing Exercise" spreadsheet is intended for a
>     >         different purpose.
>     >
>     >         Wayne
>     >
>     >         On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 9:15 AM Ivar Grimstad
>     >         <ivar.grimstad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:ivar.grimstad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >         <mailto:ivar.grimstad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:ivar.grimstad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >             I try to keep this project board as up-to-date as possible
>     >             as well.
>     >
>     >           
>      https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-platform/projects/2
>     >
>     >             Ivar
>     >
>     >             On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 2:27 PM Wayne Beaton
>     >             <wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >             <mailto:wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:wayne.beaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >                 We don't have the necessary copyright assignments for
>     >                 Jakarta Transactions yet. We're still working on it.
>     >                 Unfortunately, the time required to hunt down
>     copyright
>     >                 holders and get their attention is difficult to
>     estimate.
>     >
>     >                 We've been using this spreadsheet
>     >               
>      <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18SraPxRBCOyaS6w-UV6TR-UA1bWy1--sV0ky6msAjWY/edit?usp=sharing>
>     >                 to track the status of the specification documents.
>     >
>     >                 As we've been clearing them, I've opened IPzilla
>     records
>     >                 <http://eclip.se/gf> to contribute them to the
>     project.
>     >                 You'll note that the IPzilla list is a little shorter;
>     >                 some of them include multiple specs, and (for
>     example),
>     >                 and some documents came in with their specifications
>     >                 (e.g. Jakarta CDI and Jakarta Batch).
>     >
>     >                 Wayne
>     >
>     >                 On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 7:55 AM Tom Jenkinson
>     >                 <tom.jenkinson@xxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:tom.jenkinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
>     >                 <mailto:tom.jenkinson@xxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:tom.jenkinson@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >                     Hi,
>     >
>     >                     I wondered if there was any document I should be
>     >                     consulting to see which of the specifications docs
>     >                     have been contributed yet? As far as I am
>     aware the
>     >                     Jakarta Transactions doc was not contributed yet.
>     >
>     >                     I am providing input on
>     >                   
>      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EN5UEzxFV1Buk7yqdQAweaynWJ3UNn2BjN7blXn9vh4/edit#gid=0&range=A32
>     >                     and it would help to know if there is an
>     expectation
>     >                     if the doc could be available for
>     incorporation into
>     >                     this work.
>     >
>     >                     Thanks,
>     >                     Tom
>     >
>     >                     On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 18:02, Kevin Sutter
>     >                     <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:sutter@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >                         Hi,
>     >                         I just noticed that the jaxrs team was
>     trying to
>     >                         merge in the .tex files for the contributed
>     >                         specification.  The contributed specifications
>     >                         are in .adoc format under the "src" directory
>     >                         (not the "spec" directory).  All
>     specifications
>     >                         should be in ascii doc format.  Thanks.
>     >
>     >                         FYI, those .tex files are the original source
>     >                         docs processed by Oracle's publishing tools.
>     >                          These were run through some type of converter
>     >                         to create the .adoc files under the "src"
>     >                         directory.  As we have posted, these .adoc
>     files
>     >                         will still require some massaging.  They
>     are not
>     >                         perfect, but much better than starting
>     with the
>     >                         .tex files.  :-)
>     >
>     >                         Good luck!
>     >
>     >                       
>      ---------------------------------------------------
>     >                         Kevin Sutter
>     >                         STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect
>     >                         e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>
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