Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [EXTERNAL] Re: [DISCUSS] Mark Application C

[Emily Jiang <emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Anyway, as we discussed at Jakarta Spec Committee meeting, this deprecation or making optional won't affect Jakarta EE 11 Web Profile nor Platform release schedule as the tests would have to be executed even though the features are deprecated. Making the features deprecated would help with the feature removal in EE 12.

Thanks,

Emily

On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 5:09 PM Emily Jiang <emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

My proposal is taking into consideration the new process. If we mark the two features (App Client and Remote EJB APIs) as optional in the relevant specs, these features won't be put into the platform release. The corresponding TCKs won't be needed.

Thanks,

Emily

On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 4:58 PM Ed Burns <Edward.Burns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Emily,

Can you please confirm that your proposal does not run afoul of this text:

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Voted on Feb 8 2023.

See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e6FNVgcKJfVz4TZ6qSPs4QbcOZvkIdhu6jGwgk7txlw/edit

"Draft resolution for optional features in the Platform specification (also see issue #54), to be put forward for ballot in the 02/08 call:

"An individual specification can have optional features, however when a component specification is included in the Platform and Web Profile, and Core Profile an optional feature must be explicitly declared as required, otherwise it is not required. This requirement is noted in the Platform specification.”

The resolution was put forward by Scott Stark and seconded by Tom Watson"

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Context: JEA-101-spec-committee-optional.

Thanks,

Ed

From: Emily Jiang <emijiang6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2024 at 03:49
To: jakartaee-platform developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Scott Stark <starksm64@xxxxxxxxx>, Ed Burns <Edward.Burns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [EXTERNAL] Re: [DISCUSS] Mark Application Client as deprecated in Jakarta EE 11 Platform Profile?

Looks like even in Jakarta EE 11 platform, we could make App Client and Remote EJB optional. If we do that, the TCKs for these areas would be eliminated.

Thanks

Emily

On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 2:01 AM Ed Burns via jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks for confirming. This indicates another endorsement of being able to release Web Profile separately from Platform Profile.

Ed

From: Scott Stark <starksm64@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, November 26, 2024 at 20:49
To: Ed Burns <Edward.Burns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: jakartaee-platform developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [DISCUSS] Mark Application Client as deprecated in Jakarta EE 11 Platform Profile?

The only references are in the CDI EE integration part of the specification that is now part of the platform spec.

On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 6:11 PM Ed Burns <Edward.Burns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello @Scott Stark,

Please do that and get back to us.

Thanks,

Ed

From: Scott Stark <starksm64@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, November 26, 2024 at 13:59
To: jakartaee-platform developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Ed Burns <Edward.Burns@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [DISCUSS] Mark Application Client as deprecated in Jakarta EE 11 Platform Profile?

I believe that app client is entirely in the platform, but need to double check CDI for mentions.

On Tue, Nov 26, 2024, 11:43 AM Ed Burns via jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Greetings Programs,

At the 2024-11-26 Platform Project call, an idea was surfaced, I think originally by Ivar, to not wait until EE 12 to mark the Application Client as deprecated in the Platform Profile. This thread is intended to discuss and determine the feasibility of this idea.

The most important questions seem to be:

• Can this be done without making any changes to any of the component specifications?
• Can this be done entirely and completely by making changes only to the Platform Profile specification text? 

Thanks,

Ed

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