Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [DISCUSS] Mark Application Client as deprec

[Arjan Tijms <arjan.tijms@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

Personally I've been a fan of remote EJBs for a long time, but realistically it's time to let them go, too.

Practically speaking, I've never in ~24 years used remote EJBs from an application client. Nor did I ever see anyone doing that. I've only ever seen remote EJBs being used from plain Java SE (using JNDI lookups and client libraries), and server to server (where those servers where the same brand and version)

I'd say we can deprecate the application client container already and don't necessarily have to deprecate remote EJB too. Of course, if someone would still want to deprecate remote EJB for Jakarta EE 11 I would be okay with that. Just saying IMHO it's not strictly needed.

Kind regards,

Arjan Tijms

On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 at 22:47, Tracy Burroughs via jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jakarta EE Platform deployments can still call remote EJBs remotely on other server instances as well as locally (hopefully the local call is optimized).

 

Then there would be some effort required to update the platform TCK to replace use of the application client with either server to server or co-located remote EJB calls; otherwise, I expect almost all remote EJB testing would be eliminated.

 

 

Tracy Burroughs  (tkb@xxxxxxxxxx)

WebSphere Application Server Development

IBM Rochester, Dept AAW, Bldg H315/050-2

2800 37th Street NW, Rochester MN 55901-4441

 

From: Scott Marlow <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2024 3:28 PM
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Cc: Tracy Burroughs <tkb@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [DISCUSS] Mark Application Client as deprecated in Jakarta EE 11 Platform Profile?

 

Without the application client, there would be no required client making Enterprise Beans Remote interfaces effectively unusable? Jakarta EE Platform deployments can still call remote EJBs remotely on other server instances as well as locally

Without the application client, there would be no required client making Enterprise Beans Remote interfaces effectively unusable?

Jakarta EE Platform deployments can still call remote EJBs remotely on other server instances as well as locally (hopefully the local call is optimized).  

 

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