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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Nature of Ongoing Votes
OK as it is a specification project shouldn't these sort of decisions be in the release plan and therefore subject to the EFSP and EFSP voting rules.

From: jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Ivar Grimstad via jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2023 7:01:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Nature of Ongoing Votes
 
We had a similar discussion around Jakarta EE 9. Here are the minutes from that discussion:


In the context of adding specifications, we then decided on the following:

"DECISON: Decisions will be made with majority votes. Unanimous is not needed."

Ivar

On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 7:55 PM Scott Marlow via jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 1:38 PM Scott Marlow <smarlow@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Steve,

I think the https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakartaee-platform-dev/msg04054.html thread discussed this and clarified that Platform project committers are expected to vote with one of "responses: +1 (yes), -1 (no, or veto), and 0 (abstain)" but all mailing list members are also welcome to vote even though only comitters votes will be counted.

Scott

On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 12:55 PM Steve Millidge (Payara) via jakartaee-platform-dev <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

Hi All,

 

Given it is summer and I have been away. I am a little confused by the ongoing votes – are these project committer votes or are they specification votes i.e. spec committee votes? I am assuming this is a committer vote as this is on the project mailing list not on the spec committee mailing list.

 

I have seen various comments like (binding) and <company> votes so not sure what these signify.

 

I would like clarification as a -1 on a committer vote usually signifies veto. On what criteria does the vote pass?


https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakartaee-platform-dev/msg04046.html mentions that we will tally the votes but not how we determine the outcome.  I think the EMO explains that but I don't see the criteria for a vote to pass in https://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process, perhaps I'm just not searching for the right keyword.  Does anyone else remember?

Scott
 

 

Apologies if I have missed this when I have been away. I have been through the archive but couldn’t see anything obvious defining the rules of the ballot.

 

Steve Millidge

Payara

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