This is a question to Ivar, but I'm sending it to the list for maximum transparency. Anyone is free to reply.
I looked to the platform-dev archive for precedent on how previous release co-coordinators performed this task.
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In EE 9, I see Steve Millidge had this thread:
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He started with one email that spawned two threads https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakartaee-platform-dev/msg00837.html
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He asked for +1, 0, -1.
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He did actually track the vote.
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He had to defend the process by which he conducted the vote and discussion https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakartaee-platform-dev/msg01108.html "
The project committers of the Jakarta EE platform are making decisions in good faith. I think it is unfair to say we are not considering carefully the pros and cons. We have to move forward and decide what is in Jakarta EE 9 in a timely fashion in order to
actually have a Jakarta EE 9 release. The emails here and the votes are the process whereby we solicit that input."
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There was a lot of discussion about JAX-B and JAX-WS being included.
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In the end, no new specs were added.
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In EE 9.1, there were no similar discussions
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In EE 10, there were no similar discussions.
Given this cursory research, I have some questions. Please feel free to reply with in-line annotations.
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How much latitude do I have as release co-coordinator in conducting the discussions and deciding on new specs to add to EE 11?
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I know the tradition of using +1, 0, -1 votes cast via email is old and venerable. And I hate it. May I please use a proper voting tool? Perhaps something from https://fairvote.org/resources/rcv-applications-and-ballot-tools/ ?
I like the look of https://www.rcv123.org/
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I am not aware of any specs to be pruned for EE 11. Is that correct?
Finally, here is my proposal for how I want to conduct new spec discussion and decision. For each of the potential new specs (MVC, Data, JNoSQL)
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Start a time-bound DISCUSS thread on the list. I suggest 14 days.
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At the end of the DISCUSS thread, send new emails to point to the chosen ranked choice polling tool to conduct the ballots. I plan to have two ballots, in sequence, that allow voters to rank their
desired choices.
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In/Out for all possible combinations of MVC, Data, JNoSQL, without regard to which platform spec they will go into.
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With the winners from the In/Out ballot, another ballot that determines what platform spec they will go into.
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I'll let the voting go for one week.
I look forward to hearing from Ivar, and anyone else who cares to reply. But mostly from Ivar.
Ed
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