Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Release profiles independently

[Jesse McConnell <jesse.mcconnell@xxxxxxxxx>]

Anyone have the list of cloud profile specifications that were shown on the call?  It was that slide with the Full + Micro + Cloud columns.  Where the servlet spec was incorrectly not in the Cloud profile bucket. :)

cheers,

Jesse

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On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 12:30 PM Vano Beridze <vanuatoo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I did not suggest Jakarta EE 10 without new features.

What I suggested is to release new specs under Jakarta EE 10, but select which ones should go first under "New profile" and release that profile ASAP.

Then release other profiles. Of course it does not exclude the possibility to release all profiles at the same time.

For me the list of specs that should be improved and released first is (sorry for old names):

JAX-RS

CDI (As an alternative to EJB)

JPA

JSON-B

JSON-B

JPA

JTA

Security

+

Goodies from Microprofile like Config, RestClient, OpenAPI, Health, Fault Tolerance

Regards,

Vano

On Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 8:33 PM Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello,

 

I don’t think Jakarta EE 10 without any new features which you practically suggest (if no release or Change to the existing profiles was to happen) other than the already done refactoring of the Namespace deserves the number 10 or any Major release at all ;-)

 

Of the top of my head I cannot say, if it was an option to define such „Headless“, „Cloud“ or whatever profile still in 9.1 because that is the only opportunity to introduce a new profile like that without major changes to the others.

What Comes in 10 remains to be seen, but REST, CDI (especially the whole modularity and „Light“ Option) and a few other specs have plans for changes and whether it would just be thrown into the Web Profile and Full Profile or included differently, the MVC spec also needs to enter the platform after all those years (the MVC Concept exists for over 40 years now, and the first Java Frameworks like Struts or Spring are also close to 20 years old now) because it is at least 15 years late now.

 

Werner

 

Von: Vano Beridze
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. März 2021 17:14
An: jakartaee-platform developer discussions
Betreff: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Release profiles independently

 

Hello,

 

Just wanted to express my opinion regarding releasing profiles independently as proposed by Red Hat.

I think it's a great idea and we need to release the so-called "Cloud Profile" ASAP as one of the profiles under Jakarta EE 10 umbrella. Other profiles will follow.

To avoid fragmentation no major release of an already released profile should happen until all profiles catch up.

 

Kind regards,

Vano Beridze

 

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