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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Congratulationson JakartaEE 9 Milestone 1!
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Thanks, Markus and
Werner, for the reminder to clean up these mixed-messages concerning dates...I created the
following PR to properly point at the Schedule from the Release Plan: https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-platform/pull/216This has now been
merged into the Release Plan: https://eclipse-ee4j.github.io/jakartaee-platform/jakartaee9/JakartaEE9ReleasePlanThe schedule for
Jakarta EE 9 will now be maintained here: https://eclipse-ee4j.github.io/jakartaee-platform/jakartaee9/JakartaEE9#jakarta-ee-9-scheduleI also updated
our Project
Board to
reference this Schedule instead of duplicating information and attempting
to keep it in sync.Please note that
the Release Plan is different from the Schedule. The Release Plan
defined the Content of the Jakarta EE 9 release. It was never
meant to present and maintain the schedule of delivering that plan.
We needed to put a line in the sand for the schedule when we proposed
the Release Plan, but it was never meant to be the final schedule. We
tried to clarify that difference, but I guess it wasn't clear at the time.
I have since tried to emphasize the difference with these updates.And, to Werner's
comment about the "no
later than December
9, 2019"
phrase... This was not a cut-and-paste error or a marketing stunt...
This was the requested date to have the Release Plan in place, not
the date for completing Jakarta EE 9. Granted, the Steering Committee
called it a "Delivery Plan" rather than a "Release Plan",
but the context of that quote is quite clear on the intent (imho).Hope this helps
clarify.
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Kevin Sutter
STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect @ IBM
e-mail: sutter@xxxxxxxxxx Twitter: @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutterFrom:
Werner
Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxx>To:
jakartaee-platform
developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>Date:
06/20/2020
21:51Subject:
[EXTERNAL]
Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Congratulationson
JakartaEE 9
Milestone 1!Sent
by: jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
It’s
done when it’s done. Even the December 9 was probably a PR stunt by the
Marketing and PR (as in Public Relations) guys ;-)
So
just leave the guessing and Setting Dates to others.
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From:
Markus
KARG
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 23:59
To: 'jakartaee-platform
developer discussions'
Subject: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev]Congratulationson JakartaEE 9
Milestone 1!
It
makes no sense to open a PR with the sole content being purely guessed.
We could also start a random number generator for PRs and let the steering
committee press the stop button once it shows the right date.
-Markus
Von:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Im Auftrag von Werner Keil
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Juni 2020 18:56
An: jakartaee-platform developer discussions
Betreff: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Congratulationson JakartaEE 9
Milestone 1!
Anybody
can raise a PR, others e.g. in the Steering Committee or Platform Project
may have to review and merge it, but you can create the PR if you think
something doesn’t match.
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From:
Markus
KARG
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 18:48
To: 'jakartaee-platform
developer discussions'
Subject: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev]Congratulationson JakartaEE 9
Milestone 1!
Because
I am not part of the planning group that defined the dates I do
not know what exact dates shall be like, so changes are big that
I copy the wrong dates to the wrong place.
-Markus
Von:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Im Auftrag von Werner Keil
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Juni 2020 18:38
An: jakartaee-platform developer discussions
Betreff: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Congratulationson JakartaEE 9
Milestone 1!
Then
those other pages should be updated as well, why don’t you raise a PR?
From:
Markus
KARG
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 17:58
To: 'jakartaee-platform
developer discussions'
Subject: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Congratulationson JakartaEE 9
Milestone 1!
The
proposed plan was…
- Full
Profile and Web Profile First Release Candidate (May 4th)
- Full
Profile and Web Profile Final Release Review Votes Start (June 12th)
(told
on https://eclipse-ee4j.github.io/jakartaee-platform/jakartaee9/JakartaEE9ReleasePlan)
...but
it was changed to…
Milestone
1 release (Java 8) - June 23
(told
on https://eclipse-ee4j.github.io/jakartaee-platform/jakartaee9/JakartaEE9#jakarta-ee-9-schedule)
…and
we should clearly tell the same story on both pages. As RC1 is afterM1 the pags are inconsistent.
-Markus
Von:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Im Auftrag von Werner Keil
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Juni 2020 17:43
An: jakartaee-platform developer discussions
Betreff: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Congratulations on JakartaEE
9 Milestone 1!
There
is a typo indeed or a Copy & Paste mistake from Jakarta EE 8 saying
„no later than December
9, 2019” it
that’s what you mean?
Otherwise
there is no inconsistency, one has a Little more room but Sep 16 is also
no later than December 9 ;-D
Werner
From:
Markus
KARG
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 17:17
To: 'jakartaee-platform
developer discussions'
Subject: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Congratulations on JakartaEE
9 Milestone 1!
That
does not change my plea, as both schedules are inconsistent. :-)
-Markus
Von:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Im Auftrag von Hussain.NM@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Juni 2020 15:56
An: jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Congratulations on Jakarta EE
9 Milestone 1!
The
planned schedule is on another page:
https://eclipse-ee4j.github.io/jakartaee-platform/jakartaee9/JakartaEE9#jakarta-ee-9-schedule
Thanks
Hussain
From:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx <jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Markus KARG
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 4:47 PM
To: 'jakartaee-platform developer discussions' <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Congratulations on Jakarta EE
9 Milestone 1!
Would
be great to also find updated deadlines on https://eclipse-ee4j.github.io/jakartaee-platform/jakartaee9/JakartaEE9ReleasePlan.
:-)
-Markus
Von:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx[mailto:jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Im Auftrag von Martijn Verburg
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Juni 2020 13:09
An: jakartaee-platform developer discussions
Betreff: Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Congratulations on Jakarta EE
9 Milestone 1!
That's
really good news Kevin, thanks for shepherding this through and to the
many volunteers and hours of hard work!
Cheers,
Martijn
On
Fri, 19 Jun 2020 at 16:09, Kevin Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi,
Just wanted to let the Platform team know that we have completed all of
the activities for Milestone 1! Thank you to the wider team for all
of the work required to meet this goal. The official "announcement"
is next Tuesday, but we've already done a "soft announce" by
making all of the information available if you look in the right places...
The complete set of the Milestone 1 artifacts for the Platform (Specs,
APIs, TCK, and CI) are available via this url:
https://jakarta.ee/specifications/platform/9/
Congratulations again!
---------------------------------------------------
Kevin Sutter
STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect @ IBM
e-mail: sutter@xxxxxxxxxx Twitter: @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter
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