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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [jakarta.ee-spec] Question about EFSL notice

Yes, you are probably right, Hussain.  Would you mind consolidating this whole string down to a concise, actionable piece of work?  If we can decide on the proper wording, I can create all of the appropriate Issues as reminders for all of the Specification Projects.  Thanks!

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Thanks Kevin, I will create a PR for enterprise beans API.

All other specification projects need to update their license files and copyright years in javadocs and specification document.

Thanks
Hussain


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Re: [jakarta.ee-spec] [jakartaee-platform-dev] Question about EFSL notice

 
Yes, Hussain, you should substitute https://www.eclipse.org/legal/efsl.phpfor <<url to this license>>.  Thanks.

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Thanks for the clarification.

Permission to copy, and distribute the contents of this document, or the Eclipse Foundation document from which this statement is linked, in any medium for any purpose and without fee or royalty is hereby granted, provided that you include the following on ALL copies of the document, or portions thereof, that you use:

  • link or URL to the original Eclipse Foundation document.
  • All existing copyright notices, or if one does not exist, a notice (hypertext is preferred, but a textual representation is permitted) of the form: "Copyright © [$date-of-document] Eclipse Foundation, Inc. <<url to this license>> "
Should <<url to this license>> also be replaced with https://www.eclipse.org/legal/efsl.php?



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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Question about EFSL notice


[External]

"Copyright © 2018, 2020 Eclipse Foundation. This software or document includes material copied from or derived from Jakarta® Enterprise Beans https://jakarta.ee/specifications/enterprise-beans/4.0/."




+1 (first and most recent year, separated by commas)

Regarding the circle-c and circle-R... the circle-* format is preferred. In cases where it is not possible, (c) and (R) can be substituted.

HTH,

Wayne

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 5:13 PM Ed Bratt <
ed.bratt@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'd ask Eclipse for clarification of what they would like us to do, regarding their notice from the EFSL.

Since each specification needs this to be updated when it is included in any component, new or revised (This seems to be required by the embedded instruction: [title and URI of the Eclipse Foundation specification document]), I'd add/extend the copyright date with the new copyright year.

Since the URL (in my opinion) ought to be referring to the normative document, I would point to the jakarta.ee/specificationURL. (I would recommend neither of the other two options suggested since those aren't "normative")

I think we are already allowing prospective material at this site so pointing to that site should be okay, in my opinion. Once it's final, the "under development" markings ought to be removed.

So, I think I'm almost giving a plus-one for Hussain's initial suggestion, but starting at 2018 since that's the initial copyright of the Specification itself. (I don't know if the circle-c or circle-r will be a problem in some text file formats)

"Copyright © 2018, 2020 Eclipse Foundation. This software or document includes material copied from or derived from Jakarta® Enterprise Beans https://jakarta.ee/specifications/enterprise-beans/4.0/."

Regardless what I think -- Eclipse should probably clarify what they would like (initial years, commas, etc.).

-- Ed



On 5/11/2020 7:55 AM, Kevin Sutter wrote:

Good, fair questions.  I'm going to re-post this discussion to the Spec Committee public mailing list to allow some additional input.  (Not everyone from that team follows the Platform mailing list.)  Thanks.


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Ok than go for it, probably just a template saying 2018, the Jakarta EE 8 year was 2019, so unless there was a Prior art by Oracle that sounds OK.

 

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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Question about EFSL notice

 

Both the javadocs and specification document have copyright year as 2019 in the Jakarta EE 8 release.

 

This got me thinking about the URL, there are three possibilities:

Which of the above should be used?

 

Thanks

Hussain

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[External]

I would have thought 2018, 2020 in this case.

 

Werner

 

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[jakartaee-platform-dev] Question about EFSL notice

 

Hi,

 

The EFSL notice that is included in the API javadocs and Specification documents has the following placeholder line:

 




The notice is:
"Copyright © 2018 Eclipse Foundation. This software or document includes material copied from or derived from [title and URI of the Eclipse Foundation specification document]."

 

Should this be changed to reflect the copyright years and the placeholder should be filled with the specification name and URL like below:

 

"Copyright © 2019, 2020 Eclipse Foundation. This software or document includes material copied from or derived from Jakarta® Enterprise Beans https://jakarta.ee/specifications/enterprise-beans/4.0/."

Thanks

Hussain

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