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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] NEW VOTE 2: Leave Jakarta Activation in javax namespace

Yes, in Jakarta EE 9.

I've been waiting for us to get deeper into these discussions so that it's worth diving into the details, but...

Activation depends on the java.awt.datatransfer package.  That made sense at the time, pre-Swing, when Java on the desktop was still very interesting.  Unfortunately, Android doesn't include java.awt.datatransfer, so using Mail, which depends on Activation, requires some sort of kludge to work around or supply the missing package.

I'd like to remove the dependency on java.awt.datatransfer in Activation so that the same version of Mail can be used on both Java and Android. This is an incompatible change, although not one that is likely to impact any users of Mail (the biggest user of Activation) or JAXB or any of the other minor uses of Activation.

So, since Jakarta EE 9 is already a BIG incompatible change, I'd like to add this small incompatible change to the list.  After Jakarta EE 9, I don't think we want to be introducing more incompatible changes (although we haven't yet had the discussion to decide on rules for such things), so it seems to me that I have one window to fix this problem.

(Note that there's a few other similar issues we'll need to deal with in Jakarta EE 9, such as the removal of java.security.Identity and the impact on the EJB API.  Clearly Jakarta EE 9 is not going to be only package renaming.)


Kevin Sutter wrote on 12/4/19 7:26 PM:
In Jakarta EE 9, Bill?

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019, 17:44 Bill Shannon <bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
-1

I already have a planned change to the API that will require moving it to the jakarta namespace.

Kevin Sutter wrote on 12/4/19 3:32 PM:
Preamble:  https://www.eclipse.org/lists/jakartaee-platform-dev/msg01180.html

Please vote +1/0/-1 on the following.  Any non +1 vote, please provide reasoning in your reply.  Thank you!

Required (leave in javax namespace) - Vote
• Jakarta Activation 1.2

Jakarta Activation was one of the APIs dropped from Java SE 11 per JEP 320.  Several Jakarta EE technologies require the use of Jakarta Activation, so we can't make it optional.  It is required for Jakarta EE.  This vote is for whether we move this feature to the jakarta namespace (-1) or leave it in the javax namespace (+1).  The recommendation is to Jakarta Activation in the javax namespace.  And, if at some later date, this API needs to evolve and move to the jakarta namespace, then we can deal with the ripple effect on other specs at that time.


Note:  A -1 vote indicates that you want Jakarta Activation to be migrated to the jakarta namespace.  And, if we do that, then there is a ripple effect that will also require corresponding changes to jaxb, jax-ws, and soap.  Thus, a -1 vote here means that Vote 3 on the other Optional specs won't apply.  That is, voting -1 here and +1 on Vote 3 doesn't make any sense.  Check out this tool from Tomitribe:  https://www.tomitribe.com/jakarta/ns/poll/vote

Note2:  This assumes that all of the existing Specification PRs for these technologies are properly brought under the EE4J umbrella.  We discussed these at the Spec Committee call today and we are well aware that we need to move on these and get them approved.
https://github.com/jakartaee/specifications/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Ajavase

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