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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [proposal] new votes

Agree, Ivar.  I do think we need to fire off new votes.  Steve and I were discussing this over the weekend.  But, we will need to do this immediately after tomorrow's call so that we have data before next Monday's deadline.  Thanks!

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From:        Ivar Grimstad <ivar.grimstad@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:        jakartaee-platform developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        12/02/2019 03:48
Subject:        [EXTERNAL] Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] [proposal] new votes
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David, I hope you will be able to present the doc on the Platform Call tomorrow. There is only one week left until we have to present a plan to the Steering Committee...

Ivar

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 8:43 AM David Blevins <dblevins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I agree we should draft new votes.  We've actually worked on a very similar doc which hopefully we'll post tomorrow (want to make sure everyone on our side gets their feedback).  It looks very similar to this proposal and that we are overall aligned on the same thoughts.

My preference would be to start with this, get a couple days of discussion, make sure everyone is aligned and then vote.

Early investigation on our side looks like any split of EJB into javax/jakarta packages looks hard to impossible, largely due to exception handling.  We don't see any issues removing JSRs 93, 101, 88, and 77 however.

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> On Dec 1, 2019, at 11:17 PM,
kzr@xxxxxxxxxxxwrote:
>
> According the current discussions,
> I propose the following four votes instead of current "Add" and "Prue" votes.
> Any comments?
>
>
> (a) Remove old specs from Jakarta EE 9.
> - Jakarta XML Registries JSR 93
> - Jakarta XML RPC  JSR 101
> - Jakarta Deployment JSR 88
> - Jakarta Management JSR 77
> - Jakarta Enterprise Bean entity beans
>
>  VOTE [+1, 0, -1]
>
> (b) remove EJB 3.2 optional feature specification (not EJB 3.2 core spec)
> - Jakarta Enterprise Bean interoperability
> - Jakarta Enterprise Bean 2.x and 1.x client view
>
> VOTE [+1, 0, -1]
>
> (c) JAX-WS and related specifications
> - Jakarta Enterprise Web Services JSR 109
> - JAX-WS(Java SE) JSR224
> - JAX-B(Java SE) JSR222
>
> (c-1) do not include them in Jakarta EE 9
>       (use javax name space)
>   VOTE [+1, 0, -1]
>
> (c-2) include them in Jakarta EE 9
>       (use jakarta name space)
>   VOTE [+1, 0, -1]
>
> (c-3) do not include them in Jakarta EE 9,
>       but include them in Jakarta EE spec projects,
>       and exist in only a separate profile such as "legacy profile"
>       (use javax name space)
>   VOTE [+1, 0, -1]
>
>
> (d) Remove EJB Embeddable Container from Jakarta EE 9
>
>  VOTE [+1, 0, -1]
>
> -Kenji Kazumura
>
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