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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] VOTE: Specifications to add in JakartaEE 9

Oops, I had a key typo in my response...  Everybody must have been reading it the correct way...  :-)

>  It's just not on the list to be added into the Jakarta platform. 


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From:        Jason Greene <jason.greene@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sure but how many of them need the JAX-WS APIs to change / be evolved? 

On Nov 26, 2019, at 2:23 PM, Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I just had a talk About E-Government and E-Health using Java enabled electronic signatures at JVM-Con and I know from those projects, that there are many expecially Health or e-gov related usages of SOAP.

 

Werner

 

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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] VOTE: Specifications to add in JakartaEE 9

 

Nobody is "removing" SOAP.  It's just on the list to be added into the Jakarta platform.  Implementations that wish to support current SOAP applications can do so via the current javax APIs.


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I would not underestimate the importance of SOAP even today.
It will certainly not be used for attaching any frontend these days.
But it is still used in tons of apps, because it's of it's strict contract ans proven interoperability.

LieGrue,
strub


> Am 21.11.2019 um 10:03 schrieb Scott Stark <
starksm64@xxxxxxxxx>:
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> There still could be an update of JAX-WS to match the JAXB package changes without JAX-WS being an official part of EE 9 I suppose. JAX-WS is certainly a legacy tech that I would not expect customers to want to have to update their use for JAXB changes, but it could be beneficial to porting layers to have a JAX-WS release that allows for a runtime to make use of a single EE 9 based JAXB implementation.
>
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>> On Nov 20, 2019, at 1:58 PM, Bill Shannon <
bill.shannon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> If JAX-WS is not in EE 9, and a product that implements EE 9 wants to also support JAX-WS, that that product would need to satisfy the dependency on JAXB.  It could provide both javax.xml.bind and jakarta.xml.bind APIs, or it could use one of the backwards compatibility approaches to map javax.axml.bind APIs to jakarta.xml.bind APIs.
>>
>> But yes, having two implementations would make it hard to share binding classes.
>>
>> Andy McCright wrote on 11/20/19 11:19 AM:
>>> Would this also require adding the JAX-WS APIs to the EE9 spec?
>>>
>>> The JAX-WS APIs that have been removed from the JDK currently have a dependency on JAXB.  If we evolve JAXB in EE9 (or just rename the packages), then we have some specs (like JAX-RS and maybe JPA, etc.) that depend on the jakarta.xml.bind.* packages while others (JAX-WS) that would depend on the javax.xml.bind.* packages. That would certainly make it difficult for EE9 applications to use both a JAX-RS and JAX-WS frontend that shares the same XML binding classes.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Andy
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