Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] VOTE: Specifications to add in Jakarta EE 9

["Kevin Sutter" <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Amelia,
Remember, I'm
just casting my single vote on this topic.  This is not the "deciding"
vote.

I realize that
Markus has expressed an interest on JAXB.  I'm just asking the question
whether there really is a need to evolve it within Jakarta.  To keep
things simple, I'd like to see it stay outside of Jakarta until there is
shown an interest, a need, and available resources to drive a new JAXB
project.  Just as an awareness...  Any new Specs/APIs that are
brought in to Jakarta will need new Specification Projects with project
leads and committers.  This additional work and overhead will be required
for either Activation or JAXB.  

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Kevin Sutter 
STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect
e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx     Twitter:  @kwsutter
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From:
       Amelia
Eiras <aeiras@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
       jakartaee-platform
developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:
       11/25/2019
16:50
Subject:
       [EXTERNAL]
Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] VOTE: Specifications to add in Jakarta EE
9
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if so, what do we
do with Mark K.s Nov 18th written feedback on active contributors to JAXB?
... JAX-WS? 
direct quote:

There
still are people out there who actively use JAXB and who even like to contribute
new features to drive new releases of JAXB (me included).

It is not possible
to make everyone happy while the renaming occurs yet I like the idea of
later time "evolving those API" yet I worry that today we already
know that there are contributors, via actions do we choose to tell them
that their collaborations must stop until they rally forces to prove us
wrong b/c their voice today is not enough prove. 

there is no neutral
ground in this ecosystem, there is this forum that traces how we get to
a future. :) lets keep this thread going! 



Amelia
Eiras 
twitter.com/ameliaeiras
Tribe: http://tomitribe.com 
    https://tribestream.io 
 
OSS:  http://microprofile.io 
   https://jakarta.ee


On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 2:35 PM Kevin
Sutter <sutter@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
-1

I think the JAXB and JAX-WS question has to be answered.  I think
we either need to add both of them, or neither of them.  At this point,
I would prefer that we don't add either of them.  Let both JAXB and
JAX-WS to continue to live in their current state using the javax package
name.  If we get enough interest in evolving these and supporting
these in the future, then we can entertain bringing them forward -- maybe
as standalone Specs under EE4J, maybe as part of the Platform.  But,
let's not make this decision right now.  There are several app servers
that already support Java SE 11 with these "missing" features
and they have figured out a way to support them.  Let's leave it that
way until someone shows a need and desire to move them.

I'm okay with Activation since Bill has shown an interest in moving that
forward for Jakarta EE mail.  But, even if that got "dropped"
to be consistent with none of the Java SE technologies moving into Jakarta
EE, I would be fine with that as well.

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Kevin Sutter 
STSM, MicroProfile and Jakarta EE architect
e-mail:  sutter@xxxxxxxxxx    Twitter:  @kwsutter
phone: tl-553-3620 (office), 507-253-3620 (office)    
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinwsutter



From:        "Steve
Millidge (Payara)" <steve.millidge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:        jakartaee-platform
developer discussions <jakartaee-platform-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:        11/17/2019
10:58
Subject:        [EXTERNAL]
[jakartaee-platform-dev] VOTE: Specifications to add in Jakarta EE 9
Sent by:        jakartaee-platform-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx

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See previous email for context.

 

All committers please vote on this proposal for specifications to added from Java SE 8 to the Jakarta EE 9 platform specification.

 

The following APIs corresponding to Java SE 8 APIs will be

added to Jakarta EE 9 Full Profile

- Jakarta XML Binding

- Jakarta Activation

 

 

Please vote by reply with +1, 0, -1 in accordance with the Eclipse Development Process.

 

Thanks

Steve

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