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Re: [jakartaee-platform-dev] Transitioning Jakarta EE to the jakarta namespace

Well the idea with the legacy profile is the internal name for us the way that was proposed implement a profile shcema to identify , for the client will be transparent Jakarta EE 8 

On Tue, May 7, 2019, 21:29 Scott Stark <starksm64@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I don't see a distinction between a Jakarta EE 8 Legacy Profile and a Jakarta EE 8 release, so what is the differentiating factor?

Doing a release that only includes a namespace change is not unlike what happened with the Java SE 9 release to get over the initial pain point of introducing modules. It is more for implementors than users to pave the way for LTS releases.

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 12:09 PM Richard Monson-Haefel <rmonson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It's been a while since I was on the user side of the fence but it's hard for me to imagine companies would want to migrate to Jakarta EE 9 just for a namespace change from javax. to jakarta.   (I think someone else made this point but I agree).

If I was in charge of a large system (I actually do have experience although very, very dated) I would not change to a new app server just for a namespace change. There would have to be a compelling and dramatic improvement in the platform for me to want to move at all. Something I cannot get with the existing platform.  Switching without a really strong business case is irresponsible and I don't see a namespace change as a compelling business case for end-user companies.

If Jakarta EE 9 is just a continuation of Java EE with a new namespace, then seems to me that we are giving up a huge opportunity for Jakarta to become something better. We can take all that we've learned over the last 20 years and without the baggage of the past move forward with a truly modern platform.

I would not even release a Jakarta EE 8.  Instead, I would release a Jakarta EE 8 Legacy Profile that will never evolve and will remain separate from the rest of Jakarta EE

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