[jakarta.ee-spec] Jakarta EE Spec Committee Approved Meeting Minutes - S

[Andrew Pielage <andrew.pielage@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jakarta EE Spec Committee - September 3rd, 2025

Attendees (present in bold):

Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu

Emily Jiang - IBM - Tom Watson

Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov

Andrew Pielage (chair)  - Payara - Petr Aubrecht

David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member -  Abraham Marin-Perez

Werner Keil - Committer Member

Jun Qian - Primeton Information Technologies - Enterprise Member

Zhai Luchao -  Shandong Cvicse Middleware Co. - Enterprise Member

Guest - Jakarta EE 12 co-release coordinators: Jared Anderson, James Perkins

 

Eclipse Foundation: Tanja Obradovic

Past business / action items:

• Approval is requested for the minutes from the August 6th, 2025 meeting as drafted - Approved
• Approval is requested for the minutes from the August 20th, 2025 meeting as drafted - Approved

Agenda:

• EE 11 Update [Ed Burns]
• Retrospective update
• [Carry over from July 9th]: 
• Retrospective was done on the platform call (issue link, document link)
• Need to review retro link to figure out what may need action by spec committee vs others
• Any remaining business on EE11
• Jakarta EE 12 Update [Jared Anderson]
• Query advancing
• Jakarta EE Namespace
• [Carry over from July 23rd, August 6th, August 20th]:
• Discuss straw poll results/voting and actions
• Do we run the straw poll again with only options 1 and 4?
• Do we want to simply accept MicroProfile retaining its namespace for now, and finish defining the rules later?
• Do we want to assign an investigative writeup of pros vs cons of defining it as a Jakarta working group wide rule (e.g. JESP rule) vs. delegating any namespace decision to the Platform team?
• Impossible to predict the future: rules may restrict us
• Spec Committee and Platform team have existing controls which can be leveraged without any additional namespace working group rules
• A new “Jakarta MicroProfile” profile would require a creation/release review
• Our concern is whether we need further controls or processes
• How do we move forward?
• Another vote?
• Draft a resolution?
• “Resolved; Jakarta EE Specification Committee welcomes the joining of MicroProfile. In joining the Jakarta EE Working Group, they must abide by the JESP and release procedures.”
• Vote held in call: proposed by Andrew Pielage, seconded by Emily Jiang
• No votes against.
• Request for chair cover next call: September 17th
• Tom Watson will chair
• Ongoing tracking spreadsheet of specifications progressing through the JESP specification version lifecycle
• May need to check with Project Management Committee on what to do on Jakarta Config and Jakarta RPC: due a progress review and are unresponsive
• Issue #55 - TCK Archive Format [Ed Bratt]
• Check in on Ed Bratt’s PR: pending
• Issue #83 - Clean up and clarify how to list TCK service releases on spec pages [Andrew Pielage]
• Check on progress of pull requests
• Issue #74 - TCK challenge automatic acceptance - [Ed Bratt]
• Check on progress of specifications
• Issue #58 - TCK challenge templates [Andrew Pielage]
• Check on progress of pull requests
• Andrew to poke the individual specifications
• Issue #82 - Consistent approach for TCK challenge exclusions [Ed Bratt]
• Carry over from February 19th: TCK Process should be updated with something akin to Scott Starks suggestion.
• Review other open issues:
• Determine which issues to label as “enhancement” and add to our board
• Close issues which are no longer relevant or have been dealt with

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Andrew Pielage

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