[jakarta.ee-spec] Jakarta EE Spec Committee Approved Meeting Minutes - A

[Andrew Pielage <andrew.pielage@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jakarta EE Spec Committee - August 6th, 2025

Attendees (present in bold):

Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu

Emily Jiang - IBM - Tom Watson

Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov

Andrew Pielage (chair)  - Payara - Petr Aubrecht

David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez

Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative

Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member -  Abraham Marin-Perez

Werner Keil - Committer Member

Jun Qian - Primeton Information Technologies - Enterprise Member

Zhai Luchao -  Shandong Cvicse Middleware Co. - Enterprise Member

Guest - Jakarta EE 12 co-release coordinators: Jared Anderson, James Perkins

 

Eclipse Foundation: Tanja Obradovic

Past business / action items:

• Approval is requested for the minutes from the July 23rd, 2025 meeting as drafted -  Approved

Agenda:

• EE 11 Update [Ed Burns]
• Retrospective update
• [Carry over from July 9th]: 
• Retrospective was done on the platform call (issue link, document link)
• Need to review retro link to figure out what may need action by spec committee vs others
• Web Profile TCK challenge
• https://github.com/jakartaee/platform-tck/issues/2394
• Suggested solution #1: Fix it in EE 12 and close the challenge and use the workaround that we have been using for EE 8, 9, and 10.
• Suggested solution #2: Update the test to correctly handle Jakarta Authentication to be available as an API.
• Consensus on the call is to go with solution #2
• Any version of the TCK can still be used if this is an issue
• Any remaining business on EE11
• Jakarta EE 12 Update [Jared Anderson]
• Platform and Platform TCK to be potentially combined
• Platform calls on break until the 26th August
• Jakarta EE Namespace
• Discuss straw poll results/voting and actions
• MicroProfile currently on break
• Do we run the straw poll again?
• Which options?
• Just options 1 and 4?
• What would be the ballot criteria on what we do the final ballot on? Would it require a super-majority of the strategic members?
• Do we want to simply accept MicroProfile retaining its namespace for now, and finish defining the rules later?
• It may set a precedent
• With regards to exceptions: are they perpetual or temporary?
• E.g. if MicroProfile Config comes across and retains its org.eclipse.microprofile namespace, is this forevermore or would they need to “reapply” for an exception?
• Discussion to continue on next call
• Ongoing tracking spreadsheet of specifications progressing through the JESP specification version lifecycle
• Issue #55 - TCK Archive Format [Ed Bratt]
• Not discussed
• Check in on Ed Bratt’s PR: pending
• Issue #83 - Clean up and clarify how to list TCK service releases on spec pages [Andrew Pielage]
• Not discussed
• Check on progress of pull requests
• Issue #74 - TCK challenge automatic acceptance - [Ed Bratt]
• Not discussed
• Check on progress of specifications
• Issue #58 - TCK challenge templates [Andrew Pielage]
• Not discussed
• Check on progress of pull requests
• Issue #82 - Consistent approach for TCK challenge exclusions [Ed Bratt]
• Not discussed
• Carry over from February 19th: TCK Process should be updated with something akin to Scott Starks suggestion.
• Review other open issues:
• Determine which issues to label as “enhancement” and add to our board
• Close issues which are no longer relevant or have been dealt with

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Andrew Pielage
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