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[jakarta.ee-spec] Jakarta EE Spec Committee Approved Meeting Minutes - July 9th, 2025
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Jakarta EE Spec Committee - July 9th, 2025
Attendees (present in bold):

Kenji Kazumura - Fujitsu
Emily Jiang - IBM - Tom Watson
Ed Bratt - Oracle - Dmitry Kornilov
Andrew Pielage (chair)  - Payara - Petr Aubrecht
David Blevins - Tomitribe - Jean-Louis Monteiro, Cesar Hernandez
Ivar Grimstad - PMC Representative
Marcelo Ancelmo - Participant Member -  Abraham Marin-Perez
Werner Keil - Committer Member
Jun Qian - Primeton Information Technologies - Enterprise Member
Zhai Luchao -  Shandong Cvicse Middleware Co. - Enterprise Member

Guest - Jakarta EE 12 co-release coordinators: Jared Anderson, James Perkins
 
Eclipse Foundation: Tanja Obradovic

Past business / action items:
  • Approval is requested for the minutes from the June 11th, 2025 meeting as drafted [rollover from June 25th] - approved
  • Approval is requested for the minutes from the June 25th, 2025 meeting as drafted - approved
Agenda:
  • Catch up on the Jakarta EE 11 Release Plan [Ed Burns]
  • Feedback on calling for votes
    • What topics can be voted on and what time to vote
    • Make sure proper discussion and time to discuss is done before formal votes.  And voting must be on the agenda, no impromptu votes.
    • If there is a quorum and it is on the agenda and discussed before then it may be possible to call a vote.
    • Strawpolls are allowed on the fly, but are non-binding.
    • Ballots must be done over 7-14 days and must be done off-line as defined by JESP.
  • Catch up on the Jakarta EE 12 Release Plan [Jared Anderson]
  • Ongoing tracking spreadsheet of specifications progressing through the JESP specification version lifecycle
  • Jakarta EE Namespace - Discuss whether the language we have around Jakarta package namespace requirements needs tightening up. Email.
    • Discuss and potentially agree a statement of intent (don’t necessarily update the JESP).
    • Do we want Jakarta to be a place that well established specs can find a home for future development?
      • This is not a technical discussion.  Instead this is about making it easy and attractive to move well established specifications to Jakarta without major breaking changes.
      • Some find it is more cluttered to have additional namespaces for jakarta users
      • Should we kick off a strawpoll for the different options?
        • Emily and Tom will work on writing up a strawpoll to gauge the group's opinions.
  • Issue #55 - TCK Archive Format [Ed Bratt]
    • Check in on Ed Bratt’s PR: pending
  • Issue #83 - Clean up and clarify how to list TCK service releases on spec pages [Andrew Pielage]
    • Check on progress of pull requests
  • Issue #74 - TCK challenge automatic acceptance - [Ed Bratt]
    • Check on progress of specifications
  • Issue #58 - TCK challenge templates [Andrew Pielage]
    • Check on progress of pull requests
  • Issue #82 - Consistent approach for TCK challenge exclusions [Ed Bratt]
    • Carry over from February 19th: TCK Process should be updated with something akin to Scott Starks suggestion.
  • Review other open issues:
    • Determine which issues to label as “enhancement” and add to our board
    • Close issues which are no longer relevant or have been dealt with


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